ᐅ Having the stairs retiled and now the step height is too high
Created on: 16 Jul 2023 09:50
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HubiTrubi40
Hello everyone,
Yesterday, I had my staircase retiled. I originally planned to do it myself, but at the moment I have too much going on. So the tiler did the stairs yesterday, and when I tried to close the front door afterward, it wouldn’t shut. He made a mistake. He quickly ground down the edge of the tiles with an angle grinder. Now the door closes somewhat, but it still won’t latch because it apparently still rubs. He wants to take another look today, but it certainly won’t look any better. The edge already looks pretty rough.
The rest looks good. In the morning, he told me that tiling is not only his profession but also his hobby, so his work always turns out nicer than others’. Silly talk… I always get skeptical with comments like that.
He sealed underneath the tiles with Elastogum. But then there was a storm yesterday, and it rained heavily right onto the freshly laid tiles around midday. I hope that doesn’t cause any damage. I mean, it’s not his fault, but I still hope the fresh tile adhesive hasn’t been dissolved.
Other than that, I’m curious what khr thinks. Is there any way to fix this? Tearing everything out and redoing it would also be unfortunate. I think I will ask him for a price…
Yesterday, I had my staircase retiled. I originally planned to do it myself, but at the moment I have too much going on. So the tiler did the stairs yesterday, and when I tried to close the front door afterward, it wouldn’t shut. He made a mistake. He quickly ground down the edge of the tiles with an angle grinder. Now the door closes somewhat, but it still won’t latch because it apparently still rubs. He wants to take another look today, but it certainly won’t look any better. The edge already looks pretty rough.
The rest looks good. In the morning, he told me that tiling is not only his profession but also his hobby, so his work always turns out nicer than others’. Silly talk… I always get skeptical with comments like that.
He sealed underneath the tiles with Elastogum. But then there was a storm yesterday, and it rained heavily right onto the freshly laid tiles around midday. I hope that doesn’t cause any damage. I mean, it’s not his fault, but I still hope the fresh tile adhesive hasn’t been dissolved.
Other than that, I’m curious what khr thinks. Is there any way to fix this? Tearing everything out and redoing it would also be unfortunate. I think I will ask him for a price…
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HubiTrubi4017 Jul 2023 06:49HilfeHilfe schrieb:
That’s not a huge area anyway, remove the tiles, sand down the surface, and then re-tile.That would probably be the easiest option. I will think it over in the next few days. I have only paid half of the money so far. I wonder if it’s easier to remove the tiles now than at a later time? The tiler said that within the first 14 days the tiles can still be removed relatively easily, but not after that. The question is whether the tiles can still be saved like this. Then I would possibly ask him to redo everything. Although he probably won’t agree to that.W
WilderSueden17 Jul 2023 08:26You are not asking but demanding a correction. He should have realized beforehand that the height was insufficient.
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Buchsbaum17 Jul 2023 10:30The construction work is actually correct as it is. Besides, you can’t simply remove 3 cm (1.2 inches) from the base concrete. It’s not something you can just sand off easily.
The tiler did not adjust the tile and ended up overlapping into the door frame, which caused the door not to close properly.
You also have to consider exactly what was ordered. We don’t know that here. Exterior doors usually have a bottom threshold or sealing strip that provides a seal. This door doesn’t have one. But it needs to close somewhere at the bottom; otherwise, drafts will come in or water can enter.
So, the door hitting the tile edge is perfectly fine. You could add a cover strip or a square tile trim to make it look neat and ensure durability. Otherwise, the tile might get damaged.
The tiler did not adjust the tile and ended up overlapping into the door frame, which caused the door not to close properly.
You also have to consider exactly what was ordered. We don’t know that here. Exterior doors usually have a bottom threshold or sealing strip that provides a seal. This door doesn’t have one. But it needs to close somewhere at the bottom; otherwise, drafts will come in or water can enter.
So, the door hitting the tile edge is perfectly fine. You could add a cover strip or a square tile trim to make it look neat and ensure durability. Otherwise, the tile might get damaged.
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HubiTrubi4018 Jul 2023 11:19Buchsbaum schrieb:
So the door hits the tile edge. That’s perfectly fine. You could add a trim strip or a square tile profile to make it look neat and ensure durability. I’m not entirely sure about that. The door has a seal that now more or less presses against the tile edge. Yesterday, I sprayed the door with a water bottle (with a hole in the cap). While it’s certainly not an adequate simulation of heavy rain, no water got inside. However, the door also has a drip edge at the front, but it doesn’t run the full width. The two sides are somewhat weak points. Water could potentially enter there (those areas showed some moisture), and if it then runs into the gap between the tiles and the door threshold, it could lead to water infiltration. You would need to test this again, maybe with a hose or something similar. How often such a situation might occur or how likely it is, that’s the question.
For me, the main question is: Could anything be done to improve this issue?
If I install a new door at some point, will I then have an even bigger problem? The newer doors don’t have these drip edges anymore.
The tiles were ordered to be redone. As a non-professional, I can’t judge everything that needs to be considered. Originally, I had a different tiler who said the base should be sanded down a bit. But since he has been sick for a long time, I had to find someone new. I’m not interested in having everything demolished and redone again, but it’s also no use if I’m on vacation and the hallway floods without me noticing.
ateliersiegel18 Jul 2023 16:28I’m not sure if I’m interpreting the pictures correctly, but to me it doesn’t look like the "rainwater situation" was significantly different before.
Yes, it would be beneficial if there were a step between the outdoor and indoor floor levels that prevents water from flowing into the apartment. Was this in place before?
Otherwise, my impression is that only the weather strip (the part that directs water slightly outward below the bottom edge of the door) is installed.
If it is made of wood, it might be possible to slightly plane the bottom, and that should solve the problem.
... or?
Yes, it would be beneficial if there were a step between the outdoor and indoor floor levels that prevents water from flowing into the apartment. Was this in place before?
Otherwise, my impression is that only the weather strip (the part that directs water slightly outward below the bottom edge of the door) is installed.
If it is made of wood, it might be possible to slightly plane the bottom, and that should solve the problem.
... or?
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HubiTrubi4019 Jul 2023 00:39ateliersiegel schrieb:
I’m not sure if I’m interpreting the pictures correctly, but it doesn’t look to me like the "rainwater situation" was significantly different before.You can’t see that in the photos because I didn’t take any pictures of how it looked before, but you’re right in the sense that (and I checked again today at the neighbor’s) the previous tiles were level with the threshold. So basically no big difference. However, the seal at the tile edge waterproofed it, and due to the slope, water was probably kept away from the door. Now it can get into the groove between the tile edge and the threshold. The question for me is whether there is a technical solution to prevent water from entering the groove between the tile edge and the threshold.
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