ᐅ Realistic Cost Estimate: Single-Family Home with Challenging Site Access
Created on: 20 Jan 2023 10:50
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schmeissrein
Hello everyone,
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
I have been following this forum for a while and first of all, a big thank you to everyone who shares their advice here and sometimes also speaks hard truths. I didn’t originally want to create a new thread but intended to form an opinion based on other discussions. However, you convinced me that this building project is too individual for that. So here is our plan:
- Building a new single-family house in the far north of Germany (Schleswig-Flensburg region).
- Plot size is over 1000sqm (10,764 sq ft).
- Total square meters are not so important as long as the layout works.
- Basement is not planned.
What we would like:
- Open-plan kitchen-living area of at least 36m² (388 sq ft).
- Guest room (at least 10m² / 108 sq ft) and small guest bathroom with shower on the ground floor, so that in old age, with disability, or a broken leg, the ground floor can be used independently and possibly serve as a bedroom.
- Utility room / storage room / pantry with heat pump of at least 8m² (86 sq ft) (KfW 40 standard would be great, of course).
- Upper floor with three rooms (1 office, 1 master bedroom, 1 child’s room) each at least 14m² (151 sq ft) and one bathroom. Our dream would be a “walk-in” (what a silly word – aren’t all showers walk-in?) shower to avoid having to clean those limescale-rusty, annoying shower enclosures.
- We could contribute labor for garden landscaping and painting/wallpapering; otherwise, we would prefer a turnkey build.
As for the house style, regionally typical Frisian houses or captain’s houses (with all the “cute” features like small gables, etc.) are in consideration, or also not completely unimaginative “normal” single-family houses. We are not afraid of Bauhaus-style concrete marvels either, but those tend to be more expensive. In terms of fittings, no “gold-plated faucets” and no smart home – but decent and presentable.
The big BUT: the plot is not connected to utilities, and the distance to the street is about 65m (213 ft), of which 50m (164 ft) is a paved driveway and paved parking area that would have to be dug up (across another property). The connection costs and incidental construction costs worry us quite a bit. Does anyone have experience with such a “mammoth connection” for a relatively small building project? What realistic costs should we expect for both?
We would greatly appreciate any thoughts on this project, thank you very much in advance!
schmeissrein schrieb:
What other questions do you think are important to include? We are now both pretty much just about to sign. Questions about what, signing what: Post #302 https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/realistische-kosteneinschaetzung-efh-mit-unguenstiger-erschliessungslage.44850/post-630067?
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schmeissrein7 Jun 2023 17:42Yes, it will be pretty much like in post #302. I can't tell you exactly which questions will come up because they fall under the category of "unknown unknowns." Maybe something like, "What happens if the building material prices suddenly skyrocket during the process? Will we be responsible for the extra costs?" or "Will we even get the loan without a life insurance policy?" These are the kinds of questions you'll be glad to have asked beforehand. And then signatures for the loan and order confirmation—assuming the application gets approved.
schmeissrein schrieb:
What other questions do you think should be included?Well, since everyone has different questions (which also depends on the flow of information that you have with them, but we don’t), you should ask what’s most important to you. Nothing can be completely risk-free.
Some answers might not be what you want to hear, but you still have to sign the contract.
I’m thinking of questions like: “What happens if something happens to one of us?” or “What if the tiles are no longer available and we have to use more expensive ones?”
By the way: are you building with Team Massiv?
schmeissrein7 Jun 2023 19:30ypg schrieb:
Well, since everyone has different questions (which also depends on the flow of information that you have with them but we don’t), you should ask whatever is most important to you.
Nothing is risk-free or can be completely risk-free.
Some answers might not be what you want to hear, but you still need to sign the contract.
I’m thinking of questions like: “What happens if something happens to one of us?” or “What if the tiles are no longer available and we have to choose more expensive ones?”
By the way: are you building with Team Massiv? Thanks! We are building with a small regional company that has direct contact with the owner and a good reputation in the area. That approach felt more appealing to us from the start, and that’s how it ended up after comparing offers. I think almost every homebuyer is initially attracted by the seemingly low prices of large companies, which often turn out differently on closer inspection.
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hanghaus20237 Jun 2023 19:41You haven’t signed anything yet, and a draftsman or draftswoman is already making plans for you?
schmeissrein7 Jun 2023 20:10hanghaus2023 schrieb:
You haven’t signed yet, and a draftsman is already making plans for you?Here in the village, such things still happen through good old communication 😀 if it didn’t work out, we would simply pay them separately for all the services provided so far.