ᐅ Smart Meter – Still Not a Standard Feature in New Construction?

Created on: 24 May 2023 16:09
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Kati2022
On Monday, our electricity meter was installed (NetzeBW). Since this is a new build and we have installed a photovoltaic system and an air-to-water heat pump, I assumed that the network operator would automatically install the latest generation electricity meter—a smart meter. Not the case. A regular digital meter is installed in the electrical cabinet.

How is it with you? We would be willing to pay higher meter fees; that wouldn’t be an issue. However, we weren’t even offered a smart meter.

Do you have to specifically request a smart meter from the utility provider? Are there any additional costs involved?
Do smart meters have any disadvantages (apart from higher fees)?
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WilderSueden
24 May 2023 23:32
OWLer schrieb:

There are many members in this forum who invest a lot of effort into optimizing their heat pump electricity consumption based on photovoltaic production.

Of course, after optimizing electricity use according to photovoltaic generation, there shouldn’t be much left to improve. The lower electricity prices also tend to align closely with photovoltaic output. I would be surprised if more than 10% could still be optimized through Tibber after photovoltaic-based optimization. If variable electricity tariffs are useful at all, they are more suitable for people without photovoltaic systems, as they still have 100% of the optimization potential.
Tolentino25 May 2023 01:18
Well, cheap electricity is probably available when consumption is very low, like around 2 a.m.? Normally, there isn’t much sun at that time. But maybe the car isn’t fully charged yet, the dryer has been refilled, or the dishwasher is loaded with dinner dishes. Just speculating here—if the kWh costs only around €0.07, it might be better to quickly run all those appliances on grid power and feed the solar electricity into the grid between 5 and 7 a.m. when it might be worth about €0.08. I’m not sure if that’s realistic, but I can imagine it…
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WilderSueden
25 May 2023 08:24
Tolentino schrieb:

Well, cheap electricity is probably available when consumption is very low, like at 2 a.m., right?
That used to be the case when most power came from nuclear and coal plants. Those sources are slow to adjust output, so the strategy was to align consumption with production by offering low prices. This pattern still applies in winter but not during the summer months. Quite the opposite, actually. When all the photovoltaic systems feed electricity into the grid around midday, prices drop sharply.


Graphic: Germany electricity mix and day-ahead prices CW2 2023.


Chart: German electricity generation by source (renewable in green) and market prices 15–21.05.2023.
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hanghaus2023
25 May 2023 10:58
Don’t we already have enough radiation from all the smartphones? Now there are smart meters too?

I know this system from the USA. There, consumption values are read monthly and billed accordingly. There are no advance payments or annual settlements. You can always see the current situation right away. A graph of the last 12 months is also included with the bill. This applies to both electricity and gas.

There are few successful protest movements in the USA concerning radiation.
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guckuck2
25 May 2023 12:04
Who willingly joins a protest march attended only by completely irrational people?
That certainly can't be healthy.
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Daniel_93
25 May 2023 12:08
Back to your question, your meter is a modern measuring device. If your utility provider already offers it, this can be upgraded to a smart metering system (smart meter). However, your consumption would have to be quite high for the cost savings from optimization to offset the additional expenses...

In the future, more favorable tariffs will likely be available with smart metering systems, making it easier to recoup the extra costs more quickly.