ᐅ Installation of a Gas Heating System in New Construction 2023/2024

robert0815 schrieb:

I just had two questions about the new bill.

Sorry, does everything really have to be regulated by law? Even common sense?
Everyone should take care of their own matters as best as they can. But to wait first for legal rules—where is the personal understanding of the situation in that?
Regarding your questions:

robert0815 schrieb:

1. What happens if the heating system is installed in October 2023 but the house is approved only in February 2024?
2. What happens if the heating system is installed in January 2024 and the house is approved in May 2024?

I don’t understand. As far as I know, legally the date of the approval (building permit / planning permission) is what counts, nothing else.
There isn’t much time left to understand the world.

ypg schrieb:

As far as I know, legally only the date of approval counts, nothing else.

So far. However, the current draft of the building energy law focuses on the actual installation date or the date when the setup begins. According to this, the approval date would not matter initially.
It is uncertain whether this will remain the case, how it will be implemented, and what will happen with building permits / planning permissions...
If necessary, simply start setting up the system promptly.

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If necessary, just start setting up the system promptly.
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What exactly counts as the "start":
- the installation of the gas flue?
- the assembly of the gas heating system
- or only the inspection by the chimney sweep?
I have exactly the same problem as the original poster: construction start for us is mid-May.

Probigmac schrieb:

I have exactly the same problem as the original poster: Construction start for us is mid-May.

Tight schedule. It usually takes around 4 to 5 months before the heating system can be installed. That brings you to mid-October.
And I’d argue that what really matters is not the installation, but the commissioning.

If you're unlucky, you could be standing there in January 2024 and the technician says:
“Sorry, I’m not allowed to commission it yet.”

Maybe a heat pump would be a better option after all?

xMisterDx schrieb:

Maybe a heat pump after all?

I’m curious whether our government will really enforce the deadline so strictly. Building a house is a complex project involving multiple trades. At the current planning stage, changing anything would mean significant financial losses—which I am not willing to accept. I have been signing contracts since October 2022, and there is no mention of a heat pump in them… plus, the chimney is already installed by the shell builder. I have now designed the photovoltaic system so that, together with the ventilation system, it meets the requirements of the building energy law. The energy calculation has been done and paid for.

After 1.5 years of planning and three rounds of redesigns (KfW 55, KfW 40, and now the building energy law), I am just done. I had actually planned to use KfW subsidies for a 25 kWp photovoltaic system, a 12 kWh battery for myself and the tenant in the basement apartment, and a heat pump. Because of Mr. Habeck, I have ended up with gas and a smaller house (because my budget in euros is unfortunately limited). That’s okay—I’m adaptable enough to replan. But now it’s over—I won’t be the only one affected by the slowdown in construction, as the original poster’s thread shows.

I hope for the best and I’m looking forward to the next federal election.

Until the federal election in 2025, I would definitely expect a strict approach. Especially since the phase-out of gas heating was planned for 2025 even under the CDU government.
No one will make a big fuss just because of one year.
And I wouldn’t bet that a CDU-led government will roll this back, since the SPD or the Greens will almost certainly be involved. The FDP is out of the picture.

So you are taking a significant risk.
Even if the start of construction is delayed by 2 months, it won’t work out anymore.

Not to be misunderstood: I had a gas heating system installed in my new build in December 2022, so I am far from fully convinced of the heat pump. Not because I think it is technically unfeasible, but because we are not yet ready for mass implementation...
But that won’t help you at all if, as I said, the installer tells you on January 2, 2024:
“I risk losing my license if I install/commission it now. Sorry.”