Hello everyone,
Our electrical installation is now almost complete, and the plastering is about to begin. However, I find the workmanship to be extremely untidy.
For example, I have found four different versions of the wiring for the blinds and roller shutters in the house, and some walls have more cables than space to eventually hang a picture.
Additionally, the cables are being routed over the floor. What do you think? Is this standard practice, or does it look like very poor workmanship?
Best regards,
Christine
Our electrical installation is now almost complete, and the plastering is about to begin. However, I find the workmanship to be extremely untidy.
For example, I have found four different versions of the wiring for the blinds and roller shutters in the house, and some walls have more cables than space to eventually hang a picture.
Additionally, the cables are being routed over the floor. What do you think? Is this standard practice, or does it look like very poor workmanship?
Best regards,
Christine
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Audiobampa15 Apr 2023 08:52I would also leave it as is but discuss a price reduction since it was not carried out according to DIN standards…. However, that usually leads to disputes, so it’s better to check these things right away… Then you can intervene; it’s always problematic afterward…. The argument would be that you can no longer see the pipes later on… If you move out, the next tenant might drill through a cable running across the wall where you wouldn’t expect it…. It’s always troublesome….
Audiobampa schrieb:
I would leave it as is, but discuss a price reduction since it was not executed according to DIN standards....They should offer you some nice-to-haves as compensation, for example several extra outlets at no charge, a few two-way switches, or whatever else you want. Maybe even the garden lighting, if everything has already been ordered through the general contractor.I would also not have the slots redone. However, in my opinion, some form of compromise is necessary. It’s not just a matter of a few seconds of an angle, but this was definitely not executed professionally. If someone refers to a DIN standard based on this appearance, I would leave a fair review with pictures online. If this is the company’s standard, future customers should be aware.
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xMisterDx15 Apr 2023 22:25Hey, do you see different pictures than I do? Where is a cable running across the wall?
If someone drills 10cm (4 inches) to the left or right of the center of the outlet, that’s their own fault.
This is seriously exaggerated, really over the top. I also don’t believe an inspector would classify something like this as non-compliant with standards in case of doubt.
Reminds me of my apprenticeship. Back then, we were supposed to run cables inside conduit above a drywall ceiling before the Eastern European workers closed it up. They had already brought in Polish workers 20 years ago for that. Two students joined to earn some extra money during their holidays, both qualified electronics technicians.
When they started using a spirit level there, we couldn’t stop laughing…
I doubt you work 100% perfectly in your own job as you expect from the tradespeople, who usually earn less than 20 EUR gross per hour.
If it were a surface-mounted installation, fine.
But all this fuss over a flush-mounted installation because the chase is off by +/- 2–3cm (1 inch) is just too much.
Are you by any chance an engineer at Audi? 😉
If someone drills 10cm (4 inches) to the left or right of the center of the outlet, that’s their own fault.
This is seriously exaggerated, really over the top. I also don’t believe an inspector would classify something like this as non-compliant with standards in case of doubt.
Reminds me of my apprenticeship. Back then, we were supposed to run cables inside conduit above a drywall ceiling before the Eastern European workers closed it up. They had already brought in Polish workers 20 years ago for that. Two students joined to earn some extra money during their holidays, both qualified electronics technicians.
When they started using a spirit level there, we couldn’t stop laughing…
I doubt you work 100% perfectly in your own job as you expect from the tradespeople, who usually earn less than 20 EUR gross per hour.
If it were a surface-mounted installation, fine.
But all this fuss over a flush-mounted installation because the chase is off by +/- 2–3cm (1 inch) is just too much.
Are you by any chance an engineer at Audi? 😉
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motorradsilke15 Apr 2023 22:40xMisterDx schrieb:
Tell me. Do you see different images than I do? Where is there a cable running across the wall?
In the first image, top left for example, the cable is laid quite horizontally across.
@xMisterDx
Are you referring to me as the engineer at Audi?
We supply Audi, but if my work looked like that, I probably wouldn’t be around much longer.
I have no idea whether what’s shown in picture 1 is normal or within standards. It doesn’t look horizontal or vertical to me. Two acquaintances who made the slots themselves (not professionals and not from the construction industry) had results that looked much better.
Are you referring to me as the engineer at Audi?
We supply Audi, but if my work looked like that, I probably wouldn’t be around much longer.
I have no idea whether what’s shown in picture 1 is normal or within standards. It doesn’t look horizontal or vertical to me. Two acquaintances who made the slots themselves (not professionals and not from the construction industry) had results that looked much better.
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