ᐅ Cladding Concrete Stairs with Tiles, Vinyl, or Wood Flooring?

Created on: 23 Feb 2023 16:53
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Bayernbors
Hello everyone,

The general contractor is asking us to choose the thickness of the stair covering so they can plan the concrete staircase accordingly.
They said that if we use wood, the stair covering would be 5 cm (2 inches) thick, while tiles would be about 1 cm (0.4 inches).

We like the wood look, but the price difference is very high (an additional cost of 9,000 EUR compared to tiles for 48 straight steps).

I’m wondering why there is such a large price difference. Is it because of the material cost due to the thickness difference, or the installation effort?

Do we really need to use such a thick stair covering for parquet/wood? Couldn’t we just install regular parquet (or vinyl) directly on the concrete stairs since the concrete itself is already stable?
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Bayernbors
10 Mar 2023 08:54
11ant schrieb:

but it is also planned
11ant schrieb:

insured responsible detailed planners,

I also don’t understand what you mean by GU planned and what exactly is the detailed planner?
11ant schrieb:

there is a risk of poor workmanship and disputes over who is responsible for the faulty coordination. With a general contractor (especially with a general contractor and inclusive planner), it’s best to avoid such extra steps for quality and warranty reasons.

I expected that I would only have to set clear boundaries for each trade. For example, covering the stairs should be independent of what we do on the floors, right?
11ant10 Mar 2023 13:00
Bayernbors schrieb:

Is this parquet on a substrate material like the one I posted in #10?

I’m not a parquet specialist; the expert here on floor coverings is @KlaRa (although I’m not sure how far that expertise extends to stairs). I don’t know what the sales consultant at the specialty store meant. What the general contractor might offer you, in my guess, would be a core material like plywood or a kitchen worktop, veneered to resemble the flooring (but certainly not from the same tree or batch). Since they won’t be exact “identical twins,” you will always notice differences, which is why I suggested visually distinguishing the risers—that helps to soften such contrasts.
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11ant10 Mar 2023 16:10
Earlier, my attention was required elsewhere simultaneously, so I only addressed one of your two posts:
Bayernbors schrieb:

I also don’t understand what you mean by GU planned and what the detail planner is?

Many builders – and I assume you too – do not hire an architect directly but include the architect services necessary for the building permit/planning permission within the general contractor’s (GC) contract (and simply omit anything beyond that). Then, a draftsman employed by the GC only produces structural drawings, which is an entirely different kind of “detail planning” (in quotation marks) than what you would expect from an architect commissioned directly by you. In such cases, it is best to stick to the standard and definitely not bring your own “diet cook” into the team.
Bayernbors schrieb:

I expected that I would only have to set clear boundaries for each trade. Covering the stairs, for example, should be independent of what we do on the floors, right?

No. Your stair contractor arrives on site while the GC’s work is not yet ready for acceptance. This in itself causes warranty complications that have nothing to do with scratches or dirty marks on completed work from other trades and are far more serious. Additionally, the stair contractor typically creates detailed plans only for their own scope, and if these don’t align with other details, the GC draftsman usually claims it’s not their concern. If you had your own architect planning and the GC was only executing those plans, the architect would be responsible here (and also insured against consequences of inadequate performance).

Conclusion: if you build with the GC based on their inclusive planning, I strongly advise against requesting high-definition custom extras. Too many cooks spoil the broth, and there is no adapter for trying to fit something custom onto a standard system (not even with the Siemens air hook working anywhere but catastrophically).
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Schorsch_baut
10 Mar 2023 17:44
Bayernbors schrieb:

I saw something that uses an aluminum stair edge profile (as shown in the attached photos). It should work with a low thickness and without miter joints, I think. Do you know if it is stable and easy to install?

In my opinion, these strips always look like a cheap renovation and tend to become the worst dirt collectors. Of all possible solutions, this is the worst for me.
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Bayernbors
11 Mar 2023 19:26
Schorsch_baut schrieb:

In my opinion, these rails always look like cheap renovations and tend to become major dirt traps. Of all the possible solutions, this is the worst for me.


Is it just about the appearance? Or also poor from a functional perspective?

I still need to see it in reality anyway, but I am uncertain about the stability and durability.
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Bayernbors
12 Mar 2023 16:15
11ant schrieb:

Many builders – and I suspect you too – don’t hire an architect separately, but rather include the architect’s services required for the building permit / planning permission within the main construction contract (and simply leave out any additional services).

Ah, now it’s clear. Yes, that’s how we planned it.
11ant schrieb:

Your staircase contractor already comes to the building site before the general contractor’s work is ready for handover.

The staircase subcontractor is hired by the general contractor. I am also planning several inspection points by an independent building inspector. One of these checkpoints would be after the shell construction (including the staircase).

I was just considering hiring a tradesperson myself for tasks like flooring and stair coverings, since the subcontractor within the general contractor has very limited options there.

That seems like a clear boundary (at least from my perspective 🙂 ) and does not require extensive coordination with the general contractor’s tradespeople.

Another thing I wanted to handle partly myself is some smart home-related work, but I am still discussing a clear division of responsibilities with the general contractor’s electrician.

Does that improve the plan?