ᐅ Suggestions for the floor plan of a single-family house, approximately 175 sqm, with a pitched roof
Created on: 4 Nov 2022 22:51
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epinephrin
I’m venturing into this part of the forum to share our floor plan for discussion. I’m hoping for constructive feedback and ideas in case improvements would be advisable.
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
- Seating window on upper floor (bay window) – to hopefully bring plenty of light into the hallway and provide a nice view
- Open staircase (straight or with landing, no preference)
- Kitchen without direct line of sight from living area
- Office preferably with garden access
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
epinephrin schrieb:
We haven't really finalized anything. A different staircase would actually require an entirely new design. Considering all the time and calculations invested, that would obviously be the most painful… I don’t think that’s necessary. The staircase has potential to be extended. If needed, the children’s room door could be shifted, on the ground floor the wall can be continued inside the non-functioning chimney, and then the ground floor can be extended further beneath the bay window.
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epinephrin17 Feb 2023 20:2811ant schrieb:
I don’t see that as necessary. The staircase has potential to be longer; if needed, the kids’ room door can be shifted. On the ground floor, the wall can be extended into the unused chimney space, and then the ground floor can be extended beneath the bay window. The wall by the chimney (and I believe the staircase as well) was originally extended further forward. It was probably set back with the “hallway door option.”
What do you mean by extending the ground floor under the bay window? So no longer a floating “birdhouse” bay window, but a bay window that extends through the ground floor and upper floor?
epinephrin schrieb:
What do you mean by extending the ground floor under the bay window? So no longer a cantilevered “birdhouse,” but the bay window on the ground floor/first floor?Exactly, I support the suggestion mentioned in post #104:K a t j a schrieb:
The bay window above then almost floats uselessly in mid-air, even though it could almost be a breakthrough down below, which is almost ridiculous.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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epinephrin18 Feb 2023 09:0011ant schrieb:
Exactly, I support the suggestion mentioned in post #104: The question is whether this would really be THE solution, meaning sacrificing the one correct request, or if it would just reduce the problem somewhat without fully solving it… I can’t quite imagine that with just a few centimeters (inches). But then again, I have no expertise.
Choose a spot in the garden or elsewhere and mark out the dimensions of the entrance area of the future living room.
Include the table with chairs (in use) and the transition to the kitchen or the living area.
Then discuss the staircase with the architect regarding its length and the rise and run measurements. When I look at the section, the run in particular seems to be the critical point. The rise is indicated as 15, which corresponds to approximately 18.66 cm (7.35 inches), which is generally acceptable. Your finished ceiling height should be around 248 cm (8 ft 2 in) – is that correct? The run, with an estimated current stair length of 370 cm (12 ft 2 in), is about 26 cm (10.2 inches), which should be sufficient, but it’s worth checking whether that feels comfortable to you.
Excerpt from my stair samples:
Info for everyone ... The 15 risers are always shown as only 14 counted steps because the 15th riser leads to the floor of the next level and is no longer a true step.
Include the table with chairs (in use) and the transition to the kitchen or the living area.
Then discuss the staircase with the architect regarding its length and the rise and run measurements. When I look at the section, the run in particular seems to be the critical point. The rise is indicated as 15, which corresponds to approximately 18.66 cm (7.35 inches), which is generally acceptable. Your finished ceiling height should be around 248 cm (8 ft 2 in) – is that correct? The run, with an estimated current stair length of 370 cm (12 ft 2 in), is about 26 cm (10.2 inches), which should be sufficient, but it’s worth checking whether that feels comfortable to you.
Excerpt from my stair samples:
Info for everyone ... The 15 risers are always shown as only 14 counted steps because the 15th riser leads to the floor of the next level and is no longer a true step.
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