ᐅ Suggestions for the floor plan of a single-family house, approximately 175 sqm, with a pitched roof
Created on: 4 Nov 2022 22:51
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epinephrin
I’m venturing into this part of the forum to share our floor plan for discussion. I’m hoping for constructive feedback and ideas in case improvements would be advisable.
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
We want a bright house of about 160-170 sqm (1700-1830 sq ft). We would prefer an open staircase design, but it should not interfere with the floor plan. The flat roof dormer is more than just a nice-to-have... 🙂
Overall, we like the current floor plan very much, but since we are building novices, we would like to go over it with you experts to identify any possible issues. As we haven’t signed the contract with the general contractor yet, there are unfortunately no detailed dimensions available. The furnishing in the kitchen, bathroom, and living area is not yet fixed, so please don’t focus too much on those!
Orientation: the street and entrance are on the north side, terrace faces southwest.
Development plan / restrictions
Plot size: 854 sqm (9190 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 3 m (10 ft) from plot boundary
Edge development: garage approx. 1 m (3 ft) northeast
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of storeys: max. 2 full floors
Roof type: gable roof 30-45°, hipped roof 25-35°, shed roof, flat roof possible
Style: modern
Orientation: southwest
Maximum height/building limits: ridge height 8.50 m (28 ft)
Additional requirements: driveway max. 4 m (13 ft) wide
Client requirements
Style, roof type, building type: modern gable roof house (without eaves)
Basement, floors: no basement; 1.5 or 2 storeys; cold roof
Number of people, ages: 4 people (42, 41, 8, 5)
Room requirements on ground floor: kitchen, living, office, shower/WC, utility room; upper floor: sleeping, dressing room, 2 children’s rooms, bathroom, reading corner
Office: used for family or home office? 1 home office
Number of overnight guests per year: max 2
Open or closed architecture: open and bright
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open (but no direct view to living area), kitchen island if possible
Number of dining seats: 6 (preferably extendable to at least 8)
Fireplace: bioethanol / water vapor fireplace
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no, but projecting bay window on upper floor
Garage, carport: garage or carport (6x9 m (20x30 ft) – position and storage room next to or behind garage not fixed yet – orientation on plot either lengthwise or widthwise)
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons for decisions:
- Seating window on upper floor (bay window) – to hopefully bring plenty of light into the hallway and provide a nice view
- Open staircase (straight or with landing, no preference)
- Kitchen without direct line of sight from living area
- Office preferably with garden access
House design
Origin of the design: original floor plan from Gussek House “Zypressenallee,” adapted to our needs and wishes by a general contractor’s planner
What do you like most and why? We like the layout and orientation of the ground floor, with sightlines from the entrance area
What do you like least and why? Uncertainty whether the kitchen is too tight; arrangement options for living room (sofa, piano!, bioethanol fireplace?) – possibly remove the middle square window in the living area on the ground floor in favor of more space for furniture?
Price estimate from architect/planner: 600,000 EUR (including garage, additional construction costs)
Personal price limit for house including equipment: 600,000 EUR
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up on certain details or extras:
- Can give up: staircase, 10 sqm (110 sq ft) of living space
- Cannot give up: bay window on upper floor (I just really like this nesting box)
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
The desire for a bay window with reading window and open architecture was implemented, combining examples from various magazines...
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
see above
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hanghaus202316 Feb 2023 09:43The plan is definitely much better than the one in the original post. Are there also elevations?
Why not place the garage on the boundary?
Why not place the garage on the boundary?
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
The plan is definitely much better than the one from the original post.I agree.Unfortunately, especially on the ground floor, there seems to be a bulk package of careless mistakes, as if the planner lost track themselves. Hopefully, by the time the masonry work becomes reality, they will have also given up the extremely confusing dimensioning. Masons tend to follow drawings strictly, so this should be taken into account during planning. The southwest child’s room will be noticeably warmer than the northwest one. The office windows don’t open properly according to the plan, the WC door is hinged the wrong way, the wall connection to the terrace at the kitchen counter should be extended by about one meter (about 3 feet), and there are many other issues that an architect should have noticed themselves. Do yourselves a favor for a structurally sound ridge beam solution: roof the bay window with a continuous slope—that is, extend the pitch through it; the section clearly shows this does not harm the room and greatly reduces structural complexity (less risk of damage and also saves several thousand dollars). Also, skip the unnecessary lift-and-slide door and instead replicate the narrow-wide kitchen window pattern as narrow-wide-narrow. The laundry chute would be best placed in the corner, with the boiler then positioned behind the door, and swap the washer and dryer to the opposite side of the room. What are the odd dashed keystone lines for the eaves-side windows on the upper floor supposed to represent?
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epinephrin16 Feb 2023 21:31hanghaus2023 schrieb:
The plan is definitely much better than the one in the initial post. Are there also elevations?
Why not place the garage on the property boundary?We initially considered that. However, if both cars are parked inside, we would have to carry the bicycles all the way around the garden to the back of the house since the cellar replacement is planned there. That is why we thought of leaving a path along the side.
What also catches my attention is the 3.62m (12 ft) rough opening width for the kitchen. That’s problematic because with plaster, six kitchen cabinets each 60cm (24 inches) wide won’t quite fit. It looks nice in the floor plan, but in reality, I would at least plan for 3cm (1 inch) of plaster.
Was that a fireplace on the ground floor with a chimney or something else? If it was the first, I’m missing the chimney on the upper floor.
Other than that, having a guest toilet without a window is unfortunate, but overall I don’t find the floor plan bad.
Was that a fireplace on the ground floor with a chimney or something else? If it was the first, I’m missing the chimney on the upper floor.
Other than that, having a guest toilet without a window is unfortunate, but overall I don’t find the floor plan bad.
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epinephrin16 Feb 2023 22:1011ant schrieb:
Unfortunately, especially on the ground floor, it seems the contractor's mistakes came in bulk deals on special offer. I’ve read about these contractor mistakes so many times in other posts, but I still have no idea how to avoid them...
11ant schrieb:
The southwest-facing child’s room will be noticeably warmer than the northwest-facing child’s room. That’s probably right. Swapping the northwest child’s room with the bedroom makes things complicated again with the walk-in closet. I think the kids would get used to it though. After all, the rooms are the same size 🙂
11ant schrieb:
The office windows don’t properly open according to the plans, the bathroom door is hinged the wrong way, and the wall connection to the terrace by the kitchen unit should get an extra meter Do you mean the office windows don’t open well because of the desk? The desk has just been moved around for now. The plan is to keep a simple desk under the street-facing window or on the opposite wall. The room’s furnishing is still not finalized.
Where would you suggest hanging the bathroom door? Should it open inward? What exactly is wrong?
11ant schrieb:
Skip the unnecessary lift-and-slide door, better repeat the narrow-wide kitchen window pattern as narrow-wide-narrow. Do you think lift-and-slide doors are generally unnecessary, or what’s the reason exactly?
11ant schrieb:
The laundry chute would be best in the corner, the boiler then goes behind the door, and the washer/dryer swap to the street side. What are those strange dashed beveled lines for the eaves-side windows on the upper floor supposed to represent? I’ll keep your layout suggestion for the utility room in mind. As for the beveled lines, I honestly don’t know what you mean exactly. Maybe they’re supposed to show the roller shutter boxes? The eaves-side windows are supposed to be tilt windows so they can be properly cleaned.
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epinephrin16 Feb 2023 22:18K a t j a schrieb:
What also catches my attention is the 3.62m (12 feet) rough opening width for the kitchen. That’s problematic because with plaster, six 60cm (24 inch) kitchen cabinets won’t quite fit. Yes, it looks fine on the floor plan, but in reality, I would plan for at least 3cm (1 inch) of plaster.So would it be better to aim for 3.66m (12 feet) instead?K a t j a schrieb:
Was the fireplace on the ground floor with a chimney or something else? If it’s the first, I miss the chimney on the upper floor. Aside from the guest toilet without a window, which is a pity, overall I don’t think the floor plan is bad.No, no fireplace with chimney. It was initially supposed to be an option for a bioethanol fireplace only. Whether that will happen remains open. I need to look into the fire safety regulations again. Alternatively, that spot might be used for a room divider or something similar, or nothing at all.For the guest toilet without a window, we will probably plan a skylight above the wardrobe area to bring in some natural light.
I’m actually a bit glad you don’t find the floor plan awful at first. 😎
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