ᐅ Procedure for Building a New Single-Family Home on an Existing Plot of Land

Created on: 18 Nov 2022 07:55
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Dachshund90
Hello everyone,

I know no one has a crystal ball here, but I would still like to hear your opinions:

We have just purchased a plot of land in Hesse, currently live cheaply, and have no urgent time pressure to build (although sooner is always better), except for the 5-year building obligation required by the municipality, which, however, can be extended by 1-2 years for justified reasons. We have slowly started planning and would like to possibly have the completed plans along with the building permit for our new single-family home ready to go, so we can react relatively quickly.

My assessment is that construction prices and interest rates will change little in 2023, even if they might stabilize at a high level. How 2024 or 2025 will look, of course, no one knows. But what is your feeling:
1. Rush the planning and possibly take advantage of a small "interest dip" in 2023 for financing and start with the belief that neither interest rates nor prices will significantly fall in the medium term, and waiting is just lost time.
2. Plan completely calmly, continue to build up equity, and assume that conditions for a new build may improve by the end of 2024 or possibly 2025.

If things become more concrete soon, I would be happy to provide more information for planning and share your feedback.
I welcome any questions and opinions 🙂

Best regards
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hanghaus2023
11 Feb 2023 10:41
ypg schrieb:

I think the 3 meters (10 feet) distance to the street must probably be maintained. We personally resolved it similarly with our garage.


In my opinion, according to the Hessian building regulations, it is possible to build within the setback area. The 3 meters (10 feet) height and the 20 m² (215 sq ft) wall area limits can be met. However, 1 meter (3 feet) from the property line is definitely better to allow for foundation work.
A development plan that only specifies the building height seems somewhat questionable to me anyway.
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hanghaus2023
11 Feb 2023 11:20
Here is a floor plan I found online.

This works with a roof pitch of 20 degrees (20°) and almost two full stories.

Floor plan of a house over a cadastral map with parcel lines and interior layout.
11ant11 Feb 2023 11:48
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

I find a development plan that only specifies building height somewhat questionable.

Especially on a slope, I generally welcome not formulating height requirements as a seventh-degree equation. What bothers me here is choosing a rectangular reference point in connection with this. A preliminary building inquiry should be something a layperson can submit as well. In terms of administrative transparency, Germany is considered a developing country from a Scandinavian perspective :-(
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hanghaus2023
12 Feb 2023 21:19
You are not satisfied with the orientation of your shown design.

"Basically, the space in the southwest becomes too tight for us due to the arrangement of the garage and house. The terrace is not very wide, and the distance to the property line is too small for us.

Thank you for your comments."

They show you a solution, and then you don’t respond anymore. Well, good luck with your next planning meeting.

This also works with a basement, of course. However, how to design the ground-level exit then still needs thorough planning.
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hanghaus2023
13 Feb 2023 10:47
I have taken another close look at the basement situation. A ground-level exit is only possible if proper drainage can be ensured. Since the property itself is higher than the exit point, even at its lowest spot, the only option is drainage directly into the sewer.

How deep is the sewer?

With a window and a parapet height of 1 m (3.3 ft), it works quite well with some terrain grading.

If you are interested, I can gladly show this in more detail.
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Dachshund90
13 Feb 2023 11:25
Good morning everyone,

thank you for the comments over the past few days, I will try to respond step by step.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

In my opinion, the design with a basement is okay so far, but a usable area in front of the basement is hardly feasible. The lowest point on the plot is 496.50 m

That’s why I suggested a basement and ground floor.
K a t j a schrieb:

I would also be interested in the reasoning for a basement instead of a cellar (UG).

Ultimately, considering our required space needs, the option with a basement fits better: hobby room/bar in the basement; laundry room with an outside entrance; storage; sauna, etc. It could certainly also be done over two floors, but that would probably increase the house’s footprint. Just adding one more room in the upper levels is not enough.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

Garage on the street side at elevation 499.00 m, driveway from the northeast.

That would basically be the green option, right?
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

What is planned in the southeast?


There are two houses within the building area, nothing more is planned there. However, due to the steep slope of the terrain, they are built so low that they do not obstruct the view. In the attachment, you can still see the roof at the top.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

If it were my plot, I would plan as follows without a basement but with a large storage room. This should be acceptable as a detached building.


I am increasingly warming up to this layout, regardless of whether the house is slightly “rotated” or not. Since there is forest about 100 m (330 feet) away to the west, the sun sets there anyway, and shading from the garage (with a flat roof) would hardly occur.
ypg schrieb:

Although I already gave my comment earlier, after rereading the whole thread (because I couldn’t quite grasp the connection to the title), it surprises me that a floor plan is being discussed here. I seem to have overlooked the site plan with the height markings?!

We have a questionnaire in the appropriate subforum that answers open questions for readers here and is helpful for constructive feedback. I would have preferred to give the “house design” its own new discussion thread.

Now we are actually stuck with a “three-gable house” (it is called differently with a shed dormer, I just can’t remember) on a sloping plot with a basement, which looks like a multi-family house in the garden because of the height. This is exactly what you want to avoid if you talk about not building a basement but rather using a cellar as a living floor, so you avoid that kind of tower building, which also has to be affordable.

I think the 3-meter (10 ft) setback from the street should be kept. We personally solved the garage similarly.

@Dachshund90
If I were you, I would start a new thread for the floor plan discussion with a link to this one.

After 2 months and no site plan or questionnaire in the initial thread, important information is missing that would take readers with you to where you want them.

The site plan and contour lines can be found in post #52.

As mentioned above, there are reasons why we currently tend more towards the basement option.

Where exactly should I create a new thread? How does linking work?
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

In my opinion, building within the setback area is allowed according to Hessian building regulations. The 3 m (10 ft) height and the 20 m² (215 ft²) wall area can be complied with. 1 m (3 ft) from the boundary is certainly better to enable foundation construction.

I find a development plan that only regulates building height a bit questionable anyway.

Thanks for the info, we will discuss this again with the architect. It would be nice if the garage could be closer to the street.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

They offer you a solution and you don’t reply anymore. Good luck with the next planning meeting.

Of course, it also works with a basement. But how to design the ground-level exit then requires thorough planning.

Sorry for the delayed response, I was unfortunately unavailable. I find your proposed solution very interesting and think we will forward the layout of garage and house you suggested to the architect.

I also want the architect to clarify the ground-level exit in more detail. I think it’s crucial how the terrain “around the basement” is designed.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:

I took a closer look at the basement situation. A ground-level exit is only possible if you manage the drainage. Since the lowest part of your own plot is still higher than the exit, only drainage directly to the sewer is possible.

How deep is the sewer?

With windows and a sill height of 1 m (3 ft), it works well with some terrain modeling.

If you’re interested, I can show you this.

Yes, please do show it, I would appreciate that 🙂 Why do you think the lowest part of the plot is higher than the exit?

I cannot say anything about the sewer depth right now, I need to find out.

I hope these were the most important answers for now 🙂 Thanks again for your great help and suggestions. The picture is becoming clearer step by step...

Wide grassland with golden field; houses on the left, hills in the background; white billboard in the center.