ᐅ LAN and Wi-Fi – Separate Devices per Floor?

Created on: 11 Feb 2023 15:16
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Tom Ezio
Hello,
I am a beginner when it comes to the internet and I want to set up a Wi-Fi router in the basement of a new house. Then, on the ground floor, first floor, and attic, I want to connect a device to a LAN outlet that receives the signal from the LAN cable, and then both broadcasts Wi-Fi and provides a LAN port so that it is possible to connect directly via LAN cable without disabling the Wi-Fi. Ideally, the device would be powered by a plug-in power adapter and, if possible, be wall-mounted. Does something like this exist? If yes, which devices would you recommend? Or is having a LAN port on the device unnecessary because the Wi-Fi signal in the room is likely to be very good?

Thanks in advance for your answers.
Best regards from Tom
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Tom Ezio
12 Feb 2023 10:42
11ant schrieb:

That was eight and a half years ago – some background information about what happened in the meantime would be helpful: Did you move into the house you considered back then, are you still searching, or are you currently planning something new?

Hello, a new house has meanwhile been built and is about to be occupied. For the electrical installation, we trusted the electrician, who said that having one LAN outlet in every "important" room would be sufficient, and that you could extend the network if needed. So now we have one LAN outlet each in the basement hobby room, the living room on the ground floor, child 1 and child 2 rooms as well as the home office 1 on the first floor, plus home office 2 and the master bedroom in the attic. Unfortunately, all LAN outlets are installed at about knee height or lower, i.e., on the wall.

In the basement, according to the invoice, the electrician installed a Rutenbeck patch panel and access point Cat.6a, 12x RJ45 PP-Cat.6A Iso-12 Accesspoint – when I look this up at Rutenbeck, could it be this one (?):
PP-Cat.6A iso-12 Accesspoint rw
If so, the datasheet says it supports PoE.

If it does have PoE, my question is whether I should then use a PoE access point and whether it is possible to add a second LAN outlet (directly into the wall in front of the access point – is there a way to install a double LAN socket in the wall?), or whether there are access points with a LAN output (if yes, which one would be recommended?) that allow plugging in another LAN cable if needed.

Thank you very much for the answers so far and in advance for further advice.
Best regards, Tom
rick201812 Feb 2023 11:06
A patch panel is only the mechanical connection between the structured cabling and the patch cords.
What you’re referring to is a switch. Do you already have one?
What kind of router do you have?
In rooms where you need multiple connections, you can install a switch in each. However, don’t expect full performance on all ports.
Don’t get fixated on access points with additional ports.
There are constant threads about this here. You had plenty of time to research. Instead, you invested a lot of money and now you’re facing problems.
What is your budget? Since you have no experience with this topic, get a suitable FritzBox and Fritz access points.
11ant12 Feb 2023 12:00
Tom Ezio schrieb:

For the electrical installation, we trusted the electrician, who said that having one LAN outlet in each "important" room would be sufficient, [...] Unfortunately, all LAN sockets are installed at or below knee height,

What exactly do you want or where is your problem: Are you reading the sports section in the online version during long sessions in an "unimportant room"? ...
You cannot expect the electrician to install outlets for ceiling-mounted access points without a specific request; that should have been included in the tender documents (or you should have noticed that it was not mentioned there).
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Tom Ezio
12 Feb 2023 12:17
rick2018 schrieb:

A patch panel is just the physical connection between the structured cabling and the patch cables.
What you mean is a switch. Do you already have one?
What kind of router do you have?
In the rooms where you need several connections, you can install a switch in each. But keep in mind the full performance won’t be available.
Don’t focus too much on access points with extra ports.
There are always threads about this here. You’ve had plenty of time. Instead of informing yourself, you invest a lot of money and now you have problems.
What is your budget? Since you have no experience in this area, get a suitable FritzBox and the Fritz access points.

No, I still need a switch. Do you have any recommendations for that?
Currently, we have a "standard cable router" from Vodafone since the end of 2020, which we can apparently keep using—it’s labeled TG3442DE on the back. On the website for our WLAN, the hardware type & version is listed as 9. Since it doesn’t even have an answering machine, I had already considered a FritzBox. The Vodafone technician mentioned the 6 series, at least for a cable router.
I would adjust the budget to what is necessary. Since we have LAN in a total of 7 rooms, and possibly 7 access points, I don’t want to spend, for example, 200 EUR per access point—maybe more like around 50 to a maximum of 100 EUR, if that makes sense (?).
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Tom Ezio
12 Feb 2023 12:23
11ant schrieb:

What exactly do you WANT or what is your problem: are you reading the kicker in the online edition during longer sessions in an "unimportant room" ...?
You shouldn’t expect any electrician to provide mounting boxes for ceiling-mounted access points without a specific note; that should have been mentioned in the tender documents (or you could/should have noticed that it wasn’t included there).

No, I’m not reading the kicker online during longer sessions in an "unimportant room."
My issue is that I’m now looking for access points that still have a LAN port, or I’m wondering if that’s unnecessary. Is there a way to plug a "double LAN connector" into a LAN outlet, so that one socket provides connections for both the access point and a LAN cable? Or is that overkill because the room should have enough Wi-Fi coverage, so LAN is hardly needed? And if it is needed, would you just unplug the access point from the single LAN outlet to connect, for example, a laptop directly with a cable?
rick201812 Feb 2023 12:25
If you use cheap access points, you will have an outdated standard. Therefore, use a Fritz!Box and FritzRepeater2400. Set these up as access points. You will also have a LAN connection at the access point.