ᐅ Suggestions for Floor Plan Improvements for a Single-Family House on a South-Facing Slope
Created on: 5 Feb 2023 20:02
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Indahaus
Hello everyone,
after purchasing the plot in February last year, which was fully serviced by the end of last year, we have been gathering inspiration and planning ever since. Despite rising costs and interest rates, we are excited about building our house, including some DIY work.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 669 m² (7200 sq ft approx.)
Slope: South-facing slope, 3.90 m (12.8 ft) diagonal (approx. 7.3° incline at the street side)
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 meters (10 ft) or setback areas
Edge development: garage
Number of parking spaces: two per dwelling unit in front of garages, minimum 5 meters (16 ft)
Number of stories: 3 full stories (basement, ground floor, upper floor)
Roof style: gable roof with 35° to 45° pitch (if basement is not a full floor, then 15° to 25°)
Architectural style
Orientation: see draft sketch
Maximum heights / limits: wall height 6.50 m (21.3 ft) measured from finished floor level of the ground floor to the junction of wall and exterior roof surface
Additional requirements: garage roof as flat roof with green roofing, at least 40% photovoltaic panels
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: no decision yet on wood or masonry (affordable ecological)
Basement, floors: 2 plus basement suitable as living space
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, both 26 years old
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: see draft sketch
Office: family use or home office? home office
Overnight guests per year: few
Open or closed architecture: rather open
Conservative or modern design: rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: both desired
Number of dining seats: 8, preferably extendable
Fireplace: would be nice but too expensive
Music/Stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: roof terrace on garage for drying laundry, terrace, balcony-like at living/dining/kitchen area but with garden access
Garage, carport: double garage (possibly added later)
Utility garden, greenhouse: yes (greenhouse not planned at least for now)
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, please also reasons for inclusion or exclusion
House Design
Source of planning: do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why? no bay windows, no spiral stairs, enough space in entrance area, access garage-house in entrance area, access garage roof/laundry room on the upper floor, level access to ground floor on north side and basement on south side, sight lines
What don’t you like? Why? staircase not located near living area, small main bathroom
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: not obtained yet
Personal price limit for house including fittings:
Preferred heating system: heat pump (underfloor heating possibly combined with cooled ceiling)
If you had to give up something, on which details/extensions
-you can give up: efficient sqm (unused areas), basement under garage or terrace
-you cannot give up: basement with large hobby workshop
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
Standard design from planner? No
Which wishes from the architect were implemented? No architect, we tried to implement our wishes ourselves on a compact footprint without feeling cramped
What makes it, in your view, particularly good or bad?
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Do you have any suggestions for improvement? What would bother you? Any tips on doing things similarly but more cost-effectively?
The basement plan is not finalized yet. In addition to utility rooms, storage, possibly a bathroom (for quick cleaning and a potential future granny flat), a space-intensive hobby needs to be accommodated here. We are considering adding a basement under the garage or terrace or both. If you have any preliminary tips or rough cost estimates, please share.
If you need further information, just ask.
Thank you all!
Indahaus
after purchasing the plot in February last year, which was fully serviced by the end of last year, we have been gathering inspiration and planning ever since. Despite rising costs and interest rates, we are excited about building our house, including some DIY work.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 669 m² (7200 sq ft approx.)
Slope: South-facing slope, 3.90 m (12.8 ft) diagonal (approx. 7.3° incline at the street side)
Site occupancy index: 0.4
Floor area ratio: 0.7
Building window, building line and boundary: 3 meters (10 ft) or setback areas
Edge development: garage
Number of parking spaces: two per dwelling unit in front of garages, minimum 5 meters (16 ft)
Number of stories: 3 full stories (basement, ground floor, upper floor)
Roof style: gable roof with 35° to 45° pitch (if basement is not a full floor, then 15° to 25°)
Architectural style
Orientation: see draft sketch
Maximum heights / limits: wall height 6.50 m (21.3 ft) measured from finished floor level of the ground floor to the junction of wall and exterior roof surface
Additional requirements: garage roof as flat roof with green roofing, at least 40% photovoltaic panels
Homeowners’ Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: no decision yet on wood or masonry (affordable ecological)
Basement, floors: 2 plus basement suitable as living space
Number of occupants, age: 2 persons, both 26 years old
Space requirements on ground and upper floors: see draft sketch
Office: family use or home office? home office
Overnight guests per year: few
Open or closed architecture: rather open
Conservative or modern design: rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: both desired
Number of dining seats: 8, preferably extendable
Fireplace: would be nice but too expensive
Music/Stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: roof terrace on garage for drying laundry, terrace, balcony-like at living/dining/kitchen area but with garden access
Garage, carport: double garage (possibly added later)
Utility garden, greenhouse: yes (greenhouse not planned at least for now)
Further wishes / special features / daily routine, please also reasons for inclusion or exclusion
House Design
Source of planning: do-it-yourself
What do you particularly like? Why? no bay windows, no spiral stairs, enough space in entrance area, access garage-house in entrance area, access garage roof/laundry room on the upper floor, level access to ground floor on north side and basement on south side, sight lines
What don’t you like? Why? staircase not located near living area, small main bathroom
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: not obtained yet
Personal price limit for house including fittings:
Preferred heating system: heat pump (underfloor heating possibly combined with cooled ceiling)
If you had to give up something, on which details/extensions
-you can give up: efficient sqm (unused areas), basement under garage or terrace
-you cannot give up: basement with large hobby workshop
Why is the design as it is now? For example:
Standard design from planner? No
Which wishes from the architect were implemented? No architect, we tried to implement our wishes ourselves on a compact footprint without feeling cramped
What makes it, in your view, particularly good or bad?
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Do you have any suggestions for improvement? What would bother you? Any tips on doing things similarly but more cost-effectively?
The basement plan is not finalized yet. In addition to utility rooms, storage, possibly a bathroom (for quick cleaning and a potential future granny flat), a space-intensive hobby needs to be accommodated here. We are considering adding a basement under the garage or terrace or both. If you have any preliminary tips or rough cost estimates, please share.
If you need further information, just ask.
Thank you all!
Indahaus
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Schorsch_baut6 Feb 2023 16:11Indahaus schrieb:
Currently, the machines are used solely for private purposes, but a commercial use in the future cannot be entirely ruled out. To operate them in a general residential area, compliance with noise and air quality regulations (TA Lärm and TA Luft) is required, so the basement would be an ideal location for this.
In that case, make sure to invest in very, very effective soundproofing. Otherwise, you’ll have to schedule your business around the children’s sleeping hours 🙂H
hanghaus20236 Feb 2023 16:17Where is the building site?
Now you reveal that it is supposed to be a basement/workshop.
In that case, the budget won’t even be sufficient for a minimum viable product (MVP) in a rural area.
Now you reveal that it is supposed to be a basement/workshop.
In that case, the budget won’t even be sufficient for a minimum viable product (MVP) in a rural area.
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hanghaus20236 Feb 2023 16:38Your basement workshop does not work structurally. The southern facade of the house cannot rest on the basement ceiling. This is not feasible as planned.
No wonder the architect is not fulfilling your requests.
No wonder the architect is not fulfilling your requests.
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Schorsch_baut6 Feb 2023 16:38Here are my comments on the floor plan.
- A walk-in closet without windows, that you always have to walk through to get to the washing machine or the bed, is neither welcoming nor open. 1.5 m (5 feet) between closet walls?
- The window above the bathtub is difficult to open and must have fall protection.
- The shower entrance right in front of the door is not ideal either. You either step on the shower mat all the time or have water directly in front of the door. Or you get hit by the door in the face when you’re drying off. Plus, there is a windowless, dark hallway on the upper floor.
- I also don’t know how appealing it is to have direct access from the garage right under the stairs. That could feel oppressive. The dining room and living room are planned too small, as others have already pointed out.
- Then there are the many cost drivers, like a roof terrace for drying laundry? Not even as a lounge area in front of the bedroom or as an outdoor space for the kids’ rooms? That adds over 50 sqm (540 sq ft) that not only need to be waterproof but also properly finished and secured.
- Also, a basement that is supposed to be approved for commercial use and generally has higher ceilings?
- And a noisy commercial use within your own family home with children? Who would want that?
- I see that costing well over 800,000.
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
No wonder the architect isn’t implementing your wishes.It would still be helpful to discuss the result of his efforts for comparison.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
hanghaus2023 schrieb:
Your basement workshop is structurally not feasible. The southern facade of the house cannot rest on the basement ceiling. This is not achievable as planned. I thought the basement space was just a placeholder.
@Indahaus: The basement actually cannot be planned afterward, as it is subject to structural requirements. After the load-bearing walls in the basement comes the ground floor, followed by the upper floor adapting accordingly.
Indahaus schrieb:
To clarify exactly what this space requirement in the basement is intended for, a photo is attached. Honestly: now this will just be a simple show house, and this discussion is quite pointless. It seems the focus is on setting up a workshop rather than on living quality.
Indahaus schrieb:
Currently the machines are used exclusively for private purposes, but a commercial use in the future cannot be completely ruled out. Wow, you might be mistaken to think that something like this would even be approved. Commercial use in a residential area?
Indahaus schrieb:
In order to operate the workshop in a general residential area, compliance with noise and air pollution standards (TA-Lärm and TA-Luft) is required, so the basement would be an optimal location regarding this. What does the zoning plan / building permit say about this?
And where exactly is an accessory apartment supposed to be built here now? 😀
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