Hello everyone
This concerns a solid construction house built in 2018/19, where I have PVC windows.
One of them is a two-sided casement window, connected at the bottom to a fixed glazing panel running the entire length.
So, at the bottom there is floor-to-ceiling fixed glazing about 2m (6.5 ft) wide and above that, two casement windows measuring 1 x 1m (3.3 x 3.3 ft) each.
By chance, I just noticed that the fixed glazing seems to be leaking, and as if that weren’t odd enough, it is at a very unusual spot.
The lower frame consists of two parts, so there is a "plastic joint," a seam or connection between these two parts.
And moisture is coming from there, with some brownish discoloration visible as well.
I’ve attached a photo.
Now, the actual question:
How can this happen?
It’s currently dark outside and raining, so I can’t check whether there are drainage caps or similar. But that’s unlikely on fixed glazing, right?
I hope you have a good tip for me.
It seems that hardly anything underneath the laminate flooring has become damp, but of course, I want to fix the cause as quickly as possible...
Best regards
Enrico
This concerns a solid construction house built in 2018/19, where I have PVC windows.
One of them is a two-sided casement window, connected at the bottom to a fixed glazing panel running the entire length.
So, at the bottom there is floor-to-ceiling fixed glazing about 2m (6.5 ft) wide and above that, two casement windows measuring 1 x 1m (3.3 x 3.3 ft) each.
By chance, I just noticed that the fixed glazing seems to be leaking, and as if that weren’t odd enough, it is at a very unusual spot.
The lower frame consists of two parts, so there is a "plastic joint," a seam or connection between these two parts.
And moisture is coming from there, with some brownish discoloration visible as well.
I’ve attached a photo.
Now, the actual question:
How can this happen?
It’s currently dark outside and raining, so I can’t check whether there are drainage caps or similar. But that’s unlikely on fixed glazing, right?
I hope you have a good tip for me.
It seems that hardly anything underneath the laminate flooring has become damp, but of course, I want to fix the cause as quickly as possible...
Best regards
Enrico
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B.Baumeister15 Jan 2023 10:44profil65 schrieb:
Based on the photos, I suspect there might be defects present that could, in the worst case, pose a danger to life and limb. And your suspicion is so sensitive that you don’t want to put it into words?!
Instead, you bother to list who wrote what and when to show me that I could have received the answer much earlier, namely to approach the house builder about the construction defects.
But it doesn’t seem to be as clear-cut as you suggest. See here:
Müller SV schrieb:
Repairable: Yes, no problem, it’s basically a minor issue. Sorry folks, but some people here are acting a bit high and mighty.
Of course, most people who report problems here are laypersons. Otherwise, they would already know the answer themselves.
At that point, everything should actually be clear.
But just because someone is a layperson doesn’t mean they are unskilled or too dumb to read or anything like that.
I trained in a metalworking trade and did almost the entire house renovation on my own.
And if things are explained to me properly, I understand them.
But here many just throw out bits and expect that the rest is already known.
Do you really think people with problems in or around the house want to be explained things in a condescending or hard-to-understand way?
Things can be explained differently and reasonably.
Why does it always have to come with such a latent arrogance?
Has the water ingress already been reported?
Unfortunately, I still cannot make a final assessment remotely based on photos and non-professional descriptions.
There are several issues that can only be properly checked on site (by opening the building component). Speculation and assumptions won’t help you.
The brief summary does not claim to reflect all opinions; rather, these are the points that I believe you should consider.
B.Baumeister schrieb:
And your suspicion is so sensitive that you don’t want to put it into words?!
Instead, you take the trouble to list who wrote what and when, to show me that I could have gotten an answer much earlier, namely to contact the homebuilder about a construction defect.
Unfortunately, I still cannot make a final assessment remotely based on photos and non-professional descriptions.
There are several issues that can only be properly checked on site (by opening the building component). Speculation and assumptions won’t help you.
The brief summary does not claim to reflect all opinions; rather, these are the points that I believe you should consider.
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B.Baumeister15 Jan 2023 11:58profil65 schrieb:
Has the water ingress already been reported?
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The brief summary is not intended to include every opinion expressed; rather, these are the points I believe you should consider. No, I am just about to sit down and write to the construction company.
Just to explain why I (and probably many others) am so keen to be able to fix the source of the problem ourselves:
You’re all probably familiar with the situation in the home construction market. Endless waiting times, hardly any good tradespeople left, often unwillingness to even take on jobs, and so on.
And then you have to fight every complaint case with the builder first.
Being right and getting what you’re right about are two different things. And they always have the stronger position; for them, lawyers don’t cost anything because they have their own legal department.
And then maybe you get them to deal with the issue, but then some unskilled worker shows up—so what have I really achieved? I once had my hallway repainted as part of an insurance claim (because other tradespeople messed it up while working in another room), only to repaint it myself right after the painter left. Because it all looked awful.
And sometimes I prefer to do the work myself rather than argue endlessly with someone and then still be annoyed afterwards, because the complaint process is frustrating as well.
Okay, but in this case there is no doubt: the company has to take a look.
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B.Baumeister15 Jan 2023 12:00Especially now, this is really no longer funny:
Not just one, but all the screws are missing from that window. Then I found a second window in the house with the same issue. All the screw holes there are empty as well.
So, thanks for the replies.
Müller SV schrieb:
Hello,
in image 613582-2-jpg, you can even see that a fastening point wasn’t executed; a screw is missing there!!!
Not just one, but all the screws are missing from that window. Then I found a second window in the house with the same issue. All the screw holes there are empty as well.
So, thanks for the replies.
B.Baumeister schrieb:
Moreover, and now this is really not funny anymore:
Not only is one screw missing in the window, but all of them are. Then I found a second window in the house where the same thing is happening. All the screw holes there are empty as well.
So, thanks for the replies. Are you sure? Now you should/must take close-up photos... because there are screw types that "disappear" into the frame… you can only see them if you shine a flashlight into the (apparently) empty hole.
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