ᐅ Own floor plan design for a 180 sqm urban villa with double garage – feedback requested
Created on: 30 Dec 2022 10:14
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dimba234
Hello everyone,
after being an active silent reader here for quite some time, I decided it was time to register.
A few weeks ago, we applied for a building plot with our local municipality and have now received the approval for the land. Although we plan to start building at the beginning of 2024, we are already putting a lot of thought into how our house might look. We have created a rough floor plan draft ourselves. I would like to ask you for feedback and suggestions.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 576 sqm (6,200 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index (floor area ratio for ground coverage): 0.3
Floor space index (floor area ratio for all floors): 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: building boundary as per development plan
Edge development: see attachment
Number of parking spaces: at least 1.5 parking spaces
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: hip roof, gable roof, pitched roof, saddle roof
Architectural style: -
Orientation: see attachment
Maximum height / limits: eaves height 7 m (23 ft)
Other requirements: -
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: single-family house with two full stories and a hip roof
Basement, floors: no basement, two full floors
Number of people, ages: 2 adults, 2 children (2 1/2 years and newborn)
Room needs on ground floor and upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Two offices (ground floor + upper floor)
Guest bedrooms per year: -
Open or closed layout: open living and dining area
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, kitchen island not necessarily required
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with storage space; carport with shed also possible
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided: -
House Design
Who designed it:
-Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? Why? Two offices; open living and dining area with cozy sofa corner; children’s rooms facing south; master bedroom facing north; utility room with access to the garage
What do you not like? Why? Overall, we like our design. We want to maximize the use of our garden area on the south side. To get more out of it, the house would need to be narrower and longer (currently 11 x 10.5 m (36 x 34.5 ft)). In our designs, this always failed because the rooms become too narrow and elongated. As laypersons, we probably overlook major planning mistakes. So, we ask here for constructive criticism and suggestions.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: -
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating technology: -
If you have to give up one or more details/additions,
-what can you do without: garage, the second office/guest room
-what you cannot do without: -
Why did the design end up like this? E.g.
-Collection of ideas from catalogs and internet searches
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
The main question is whether we have sensibly planned the layout and arrangement of garage, house entrance, and rooms in relation to the plot and its orientation. Is the design coherent overall?
The attached image with the house on the plot (Entwurf.jpg) is a draft from the responsible planning office for the building area. We want to build the house and garage aligned in the same way. However, the house will be placed at the front building boundary and the garage shifted towards the rear plot boundary.
PS: We created the design with a rudimentary online tool. Unfortunately, the tool does not allow adjusting room names (therefore “playroom” instead of “children’s room,” etc.), but I think you understand what is meant.
I look forward to your feedback 🙂!
after being an active silent reader here for quite some time, I decided it was time to register.
A few weeks ago, we applied for a building plot with our local municipality and have now received the approval for the land. Although we plan to start building at the beginning of 2024, we are already putting a lot of thought into how our house might look. We have created a rough floor plan draft ourselves. I would like to ask you for feedback and suggestions.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 576 sqm (6,200 sq ft)
Slope: no
Site occupancy index (floor area ratio for ground coverage): 0.3
Floor space index (floor area ratio for all floors): 0.6
Building envelope, building line and boundary: building boundary as per development plan
Edge development: see attachment
Number of parking spaces: at least 1.5 parking spaces
Number of floors: 2 full stories
Roof type: hip roof, gable roof, pitched roof, saddle roof
Architectural style: -
Orientation: see attachment
Maximum height / limits: eaves height 7 m (23 ft)
Other requirements: -
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: single-family house with two full stories and a hip roof
Basement, floors: no basement, two full floors
Number of people, ages: 2 adults, 2 children (2 1/2 years and newborn)
Room needs on ground floor and upper floor:
Office: family use or home office? Two offices (ground floor + upper floor)
Guest bedrooms per year: -
Open or closed layout: open living and dining area
Traditional or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen, kitchen island not necessarily required
Number of dining seats: 6-8
Fireplace: no
Music/stereo wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: double garage with storage space; carport with shed also possible
Utility garden, greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are preferred or avoided: -
House Design
Who designed it:
-Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? Why? Two offices; open living and dining area with cozy sofa corner; children’s rooms facing south; master bedroom facing north; utility room with access to the garage
What do you not like? Why? Overall, we like our design. We want to maximize the use of our garden area on the south side. To get more out of it, the house would need to be narrower and longer (currently 11 x 10.5 m (36 x 34.5 ft)). In our designs, this always failed because the rooms become too narrow and elongated. As laypersons, we probably overlook major planning mistakes. So, we ask here for constructive criticism and suggestions.
Cost estimate according to architect/planner: -
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 500,000
Preferred heating technology: -
If you have to give up one or more details/additions,
-what can you do without: garage, the second office/guest room
-what you cannot do without: -
Why did the design end up like this? E.g.
-Collection of ideas from catalogs and internet searches
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan, summarized in 130 characters?
The main question is whether we have sensibly planned the layout and arrangement of garage, house entrance, and rooms in relation to the plot and its orientation. Is the design coherent overall?
The attached image with the house on the plot (Entwurf.jpg) is a draft from the responsible planning office for the building area. We want to build the house and garage aligned in the same way. However, the house will be placed at the front building boundary and the garage shifted towards the rear plot boundary.
PS: We created the design with a rudimentary online tool. Unfortunately, the tool does not allow adjusting room names (therefore “playroom” instead of “children’s room,” etc.), but I think you understand what is meant.
I look forward to your feedback 🙂!
dimba234 schrieb:
My mistake, I was basing it on a basement stair. dimba234 schrieb:
Basement, floors: no basement, two full storeys Huh – where did a basement suddenly come from? So far, I hadn’t seen one or had the impression one was planned, given the space replacement situation (???).
dimba234 schrieb:
If I remember the sentence from the development plan correctly, the city does mention a possible extension to the east, but as of now there is nothing concrete planned. [...] According to the geoportal, if I draw a diagonal from the NE to the SW corner of the property, there is a height difference of 0.2m (8 inches). An off-the-shelf house would be perfectly fine for us. Such a small height variation on the building site is fantastic and almost a "basement contraindication." The development plan clearly points in a specific planning direction – though that doesn’t mean the realization won’t take ages or turn out quite differently.
dimba234 schrieb:
Very good point. If the double garage remains, I would plan for a 5m (16 ft) garage door and move the door as far as possible to the left. Not ideal, but otherwise I wouldn’t know how to handle a side entrance. No, that’s not a good suggestion and should be forgotten for now. This belongs in the fine-tuning stage (ideally already in the preliminary design) and only confuses things at this point.
dimba234 schrieb:
Overall, your feedback has made us think. So this evening we looked for more suitable floor plan ideas. I found the suggestion of the "Sento house" from another thread very helpful. We like the Sento 504 both in terms of room layout and dimensions – except for one point. The Sento 504 is from Fingerhaus, which is a timber frame panel builder. Such models can only be partially used as references if you want to transfer the floor plan inspiration into a masonry build: the wall thicknesses are effectively comparable, so the dimensions “fit.” However, timber constructions behave differently structurally, especially since they don’t have the contrast that masonry buildings have between (partially load-bearing) walls on the ground floor versus lightweight partitions upstairs. From the perspective of the upper floor “parent floor plan,” the transferability reaches its limits here. Specifically, the Sento 504 also has a knee wall attic, which further questions its suitability as a “townhouse” planning inspiration. Such “transgenic donor floor plans” are generally less suitable.
I also recommend looking for complete building proposals. A simply "proven floor plan" is much less valuable than working with a builder experienced with the entire “production house.” So: even within the “timber” or “masonry” categories, it’s better not to try combining house types from different manufacturers in practice!
dimba234 schrieb:
If the planned budget isn’t sufficient, we’ll tighten the belt. No office downstairs, carport instead of double garage, etc. We plan to visit 3–4 local house builders with our plan/idea sketch at the beginning of January. I’m curious about the quotes we’ll get. Yes, it’s good not to approach too many companies. Downgrading from an enclosed parking space is an easy saving point. Changes to the room layout are more difficult to implement. But the extra office probably has a reason, right?
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For the Sento504 to fit, I would need to rotate the upper floor around the horizontal axis (without the stairs). However, then the bathrooms on the ground floor and upper floor would no longer be aligned, and the upper floor bathroom would be in the southeast.
Is it more reasonably priced because of smaller exterior dimensions? We still plan to build with solid construction.
Is it more reasonably priced because of smaller exterior dimensions? We still plan to build with solid construction.
dimba234 schrieb:
To make the Sento504 fit, I would have to rotate the upper floor around the horizontal axis (without the staircase). But then the bathrooms on the ground floor and upper floor would no longer be aligned, and the upper floor bathroom ends up in the southeast. I’m a bit confused right now.
dimba234 schrieb:
Is it more affordable due to smaller exterior dimensions? We still plan to build with solid construction. I don’t see any reason against a masonry build, but what are the reasons for this preference?
The price level is basically the same for wood and masonry when size and specifications are comparable.
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xMisterDx31 Dec 2022 01:07Then the house isn’t right for you, so keep looking. I don’t know if everyone experiences this moment, but when I saw the floor plan of my future home, I thought, "This is it. At least within the budget we have." 😉
Unfortunately, it’s not very helpful that most home builders don’t publish "turnkey from xxx" prices online.
Also, don’t underestimate the additional costs on top before you actually have the house the way you want it and can move in.
Unfortunately, it’s not very helpful that most home builders don’t publish "turnkey from xxx" prices online.
Also, don’t underestimate the additional costs on top before you actually have the house the way you want it and can move in.
xMisterDx schrieb:
Then the house doesn’t suit you, so keep looking. I don’t know if everyone has this moment, but when I saw the floor plan of my future home, I thought, “This is it. At least within the budget we have.” Bestsellers are no coincidence – they “inevitably” come about when a provider truly “knows” and focuses on their target group. Customers who fit the Pareto principle are just as easy to satisfy as those who seek the absolute maximum will keep looking forever. Whether the pot and lid match depends largely on the pot in hand, you could say ;-)
xMisterDx schrieb:
Unfortunately, it’s not very helpful that most home builders don’t publish “turnkey from xxx” prices on the internet. A nationwide provider rarely manages with fewer than seven or eight different prices for the same house. What kind of benefit would you expect from such pricing information as a prospective homeowner?
xMisterDx schrieb:
You shouldn’t underestimate what additional costs come on top before you get the house exactly as you want it and can move in. That’s why so much landscaping gets postponed until the next pay raise ;-)
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xMisterDx31 Dec 2022 01:2911ant schrieb:
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A nationwide provider rarely offers fewer than seven or eight different prices for the same house. What kind of benefit would you expect from such an offer for someone planning to build?I know someone who uses postal codes and then provides the price for that region.
For an HTML developer, that should be a task for a lunch break.
And what I expect from a price indication… is that question a joke?
Do you go shopping and just put everything in your cart, only to check the prices on a list at the checkout?
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