ᐅ Floor plan of a single-family detached house, urban villa style, approximately 2,600 sq ft, without a basement
Created on: 23 Apr 2022 11:06
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Hello,
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
Marvinius schrieb:
I really don’t like the exterior look at the main entrance. There is only one large, asymmetrically placed window in the recess where the staircase and the two bathrooms are located. Don’t you think the two bathrooms might also be too dark? Obviously, you might not want a large window facing the street from the bathroom, but I would prefer to have the main entrance and staircase in that recess. Above the entrance, you could then have a void space, which would immediately make everything feel much more spacious—something that it should be with over 200m² (2,150 sq ft).
Otherwise, the ground floor has made great progress regarding the kitchen, living room, and pantry, but because of the roof covering, it is becoming too dark. So make sure to have enough openings for LED spotlights in the ceiling installed from the start... Thank you very much for your feedback! We are still considering the window in the staircase area, possibly two smaller offset windows or maybe two horizontal windows—but it will always be asymmetrical. If we remove the bathrooms from the recess, the floor plan no longer works. We will consider windows for the two bathrooms facing the front. The “over 200m² (2,150 sq ft)” is now only in the title; the actual size is currently under 200m².
Marvinius schrieb:
And while I’m at it: the storage room plus the garage are larger than the combined living, dining, and kitchen area. I think that’s fundamentally unbalanced.
Although I’m a car enthusiast and we actually have more than two cars, a double garage would never occur to me. The garage is definitely open for discussion, but if you also want to accommodate motorcycles and bicycles, you’ll need enough space; otherwise, I’d skip the garage and just build a carport. I don’t think storage space without a basement is too large, since we don’t want to add an extra garden shed or something similar after only two years.
As for the living, dining, and kitchen area, it’s large enough for us. The question is more about how well a corner bench/stove/fireplace could potentially fit in. There hasn’t really been any feedback on that specific question yet...
11ant schrieb:
You can’t receive links here yet (but feel free to use the fact that my username on gmx de is the same as here). Or you can search externally using quotation marks for “Das Steinemantra des 11anten.” In this forum, that search term doesn't lead to just one, but to all my posts on this topic. Okay, thanks. If I understand correctly, the key point is that the builder also has expertise with the chosen wall construction – which goes without saying. Still, I need to have an idea of what I want and what I don’t.
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xMisterDx26 Dec 2022 20:36A basement or storage room unfortunately often ends up being nothing more than an expensive dumping ground. I can’t recall a single move where at least half of the basement wasn’t thrown into the skip, with most of the boxes never even opened.
This is doubly absurd because with the attitude of “we have a storage room,” people sometimes end up buying unnecessary stuff on purpose. They feel the need to justify the costly storage space.
I would seriously reconsider having over 50m² (540 ft²) of storage space that can easily cost around 75,000 EUR. Just think of all the meaningful things you could do with that money...
This is doubly absurd because with the attitude of “we have a storage room,” people sometimes end up buying unnecessary stuff on purpose. They feel the need to justify the costly storage space.
I would seriously reconsider having over 50m² (540 ft²) of storage space that can easily cost around 75,000 EUR. Just think of all the meaningful things you could do with that money...
xMisterDx schrieb:
A basement or storage room unfortunately often ends up just being an expensive storage space. I can’t remember a single move where at least half of the basement didn’t go straight to the dumpster, with most boxes never even opened.
This is doubly absurd because people buy unnecessary stuff on purpose, thinking “We have a storage room anyway.” You have to justify the costly storage space.
I would really think twice about having over 50m² (540 ft²) of storage area that easily costs around 75,000 EUR.
Think what useful things you could do with that money instead... I basically agree with you, but there isn’t anywhere near 50m² (540 ft²) of storage space. The storage room also includes a small workbench plus space for garden tools.
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xMisterDx26 Dec 2022 20:41A new garage where I just store a metal box that can easily stand outside anyway also counts as an "expensive and largely pointless storage space" to me. 😉
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