ᐅ Planning a Guest Bathroom in a New Build – What Is the Minimum Size? (Building Standards?)

Created on: 11 Dec 2022 12:59
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T-i-m-m
Hello house building forum,

we are currently planning a semi-detached house. The building plot is very small, and the footprint is accordingly limited. To achieve a reasonably usable living area, we want to keep non-living spaces small and allocate the saved space to the living rooms.

On the ground floor, we are planning a guest toilet without a shower—that is, only a toilet and a washbasin. Recently, I have been carrying a laser measuring device when visiting friends and have measured several guest toilets. Conclusion: 1 meter (3.3 feet) in width and 2 meters (6.6 feet) in length are more than sufficient. In our case, the door would be on the short wall, the toilet opposite the door, and the washbasin on the long wall.

We are currently looking for a builder and have roughly presented our plans. One potential builder mentioned that according to the DIN standard, a guest toilet must be at least 1.24 meters (4 feet) wide.

My online research so far hasn’t been enough to find the relevant regulation or DIN. The DIN 18022 on bathroom planning appears to have been withdrawn without replacement.

Is anyone familiar with this requirement? Is it not allowed to plan a 1 meter (3.3 feet) wide guest toilet in a new build?
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Myrna_Loy
11 Dec 2022 21:07
I don't agree at all. If I had so little space and three people living there, I wouldn’t plan for a table for six with a lot of walking space around it. I would rather use a small table with an extendable tabletop. And I would separate the kitchen from the living area with a counter. Right now, it looks like a bland holiday apartment. Given the few square meters, I also don’t see why the kitchen absolutely has to be next to the terrace, which in Hamburg isn’t usable year-round anyway. Very small floor plans need to be designed completely differently rather than just scaled down from larger ones.
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kbt09
11 Dec 2022 21:08
Sorry, but just because you are a family of three doesn’t mean you don’t occasionally have guests, etc. And honestly, I live alone and love my dining table measuring 180cm by 90cm (71 inches by 35 inches) and simply couldn’t imagine having such a small “cat table.”
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T-i-m-m
11 Dec 2022 21:09
The upper floor is currently a full story. It might be changed to a knee wall of about 2 meters (6.6 feet) to create more roof area, which would reduce the required setback from the neighbor. This would result in more living space on the ground floor or upper floor, but less in the attic. The final plan will show what the best compromise is.

The roof slope faces south and north. It is the same roof as on the other half of the house.
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kbt09
11 Dec 2022 21:12
T-i-m-m schrieb:

It might still be changed to a knee wall starting at about 2 meters (6.5 feet)
I would try to avoid that, especially in the children's room area, because for that one window it would mean having a low window sill height of about 160 cm (63 inches) at most up to the glass height. (This is considering the frame and usually the roller shutter as well).
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Myrna_Loy
11 Dec 2022 21:14
kbt09 schrieb:

Sorry, but just because you are a family of three doesn’t mean you don’t sometimes have guests. And honestly, I live alone and love my dining table measuring 180 x 90 cm (71 x 35 inches) and cannot imagine having such a small table at all.
We had a small table (100 x 100 cm / 39 x 39 inches) for a long time in our first kitchen-dining area, where we comfortably sat with a toddler and a baby. It could be extended with leaves to 180 x 100 cm (71 x 39 inches). We sat ten people around it during celebrations.
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T-i-m-m
11 Dec 2022 21:16
kbt09 schrieb:

I would try to avoid this, especially in the children’s room area, since it would result in a low window height up to the glass of about 160 cm (63 inches) at most for one of the windows. (Because you also have to consider the frame and usually shutters).

Good point. This topic is currently under consideration with our builders as a "Would this make sense" question. Either leave it out or use these shallow tubular windows.