Hello,
Matter is about to launch, and it already looks very promising that the standard will establish itself in the long term and replace the older systems (especially the isolated solutions).
My question is: Which smart lights would you recommend for Matter?
Lights: complete lamps, bulbs, light strips, etc.
Matter mainly relies on the wireless standard Thread, but Wi-Fi and other wireless standards can also be integrated via bridges.
The largest and best-known provider is Philips Hue. However, Philips Hue has already announced that they will continue to use Zigbee and do not plan to incorporate Thread. Matter compatibility will be achieved through the Hue Bridge.
Which lamps would you recommend?
Would you use Philips Hue despite Zigbee and work with two wireless standards (Zigbee for the lamps and the rest with Thread)?
For light switches, I like the Eve Light Switch (wireless standard Thread). Alternatively, you could also use Friends of Hue switches or standard Zigbee light switches.
Matter is about to launch, and it already looks very promising that the standard will establish itself in the long term and replace the older systems (especially the isolated solutions).
My question is: Which smart lights would you recommend for Matter?
Lights: complete lamps, bulbs, light strips, etc.
Matter mainly relies on the wireless standard Thread, but Wi-Fi and other wireless standards can also be integrated via bridges.
The largest and best-known provider is Philips Hue. However, Philips Hue has already announced that they will continue to use Zigbee and do not plan to incorporate Thread. Matter compatibility will be achieved through the Hue Bridge.
Which lamps would you recommend?
Would you use Philips Hue despite Zigbee and work with two wireless standards (Zigbee for the lamps and the rest with Thread)?
For light switches, I like the Eve Light Switch (wireless standard Thread). Alternatively, you could also use Friends of Hue switches or standard Zigbee light switches.
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SaniererNRW12316 Nov 2022 13:09FrankChief schrieb:
Should I use Wi-Fi? I imagine there could be problems if too many devices are connected to the Wi-Fi.It depends on how many devices you want to connect. More than 200?From practical experience: I have installed many different manufacturers and protocols/standards. Zigbee, Z-Wave, Wi-Fi, wired connections. Lamps, push buttons, switches, smart plugs—everything mixed together. Shelly, Hue, Osram, Xiaomi, you name it.
The key point: I use a server like HomeAssistant to network all these different standards. I enjoy tinkering myself, understand the quirks of each system, and don’t mind spending time on it.
The question is: What type of user are you? 😀
If you want a stable setup with minimal tinkering, for example, go with Zigbee and a Hue bridge. Just install the app and you’re good to go.
If you want more flexibility, check out "Homee" – it offers a small server where you can add different modules (e.g., Zigbee, Z-Wave, EnOcean). It’s also quite user-friendly.
However, if you enjoy tinkering and want maximum flexibility, there’s no way around HomeAssistant or ioBroker.
The point: Time is money – if you want something good and easy to configure, buy Hue and pay for it. If you’re willing to read up and learn a bit, go with Shelly, set up your own mini server based on a Raspberry Pi, or take a look at `Homee`.
The key point: I use a server like HomeAssistant to network all these different standards. I enjoy tinkering myself, understand the quirks of each system, and don’t mind spending time on it.
The question is: What type of user are you? 😀
If you want a stable setup with minimal tinkering, for example, go with Zigbee and a Hue bridge. Just install the app and you’re good to go.
If you want more flexibility, check out "Homee" – it offers a small server where you can add different modules (e.g., Zigbee, Z-Wave, EnOcean). It’s also quite user-friendly.
However, if you enjoy tinkering and want maximum flexibility, there’s no way around HomeAssistant or ioBroker.
The point: Time is money – if you want something good and easy to configure, buy Hue and pay for it. If you’re willing to read up and learn a bit, go with Shelly, set up your own mini server based on a Raspberry Pi, or take a look at `Homee`.
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FrankChief16 Nov 2022 13:40I would like a functioning system that combines as few different wireless standards as possible.
The wireless standard I want to use should create a working mesh network to minimize connection issues as much as possible.
The wireless standard I want to use should create a working mesh network to minimize connection issues as much as possible.
FrankChief schrieb:
I would like a functional system with as few different wireless standards combined as possible.
The wireless standard I want to use should build a working mesh network to avoid connection issues as much as possible. My clear recommendation: Then choose Zigbee and preferably "Homee" as the base – that way you have buttons, switches, lamps, smart outlets, and sensors.
For things like roller shutters, it gets tricky again. However, if you use "Homee" as the base, you can easily integrate Shelly (Wi-Fi) devices as well. So the system can grow over time.
Or you can wait and see how Thread/Matter develop. But that could take years.
FrankChief schrieb:
If the wireless system, for example, doesn’t have a roller shutter switch, you can use a roller shutter switch from another manufacturer that is also compatible with Matter.
For Thread, you don’t need a bridge; you only need a Border Router, which can later be Amazon Echos or, for example, Google Nest Wifi routers/access points.
Matter is mainly about combining different manufacturers, similar to KNX, however you want. You don’t need to explain what Matter is or how it works. I am well informed. It’s an attempt to create something like the KNX environment but using wireless technology.
Still, I repeat my question: Why do it? Why choose a Matter-compatible product if another one works just as well?
FrankChief schrieb:
Can you specify exactly which system or type of system you would recommend? None of the systems in particular. Systems are practically short-lived trends. You have to decide which standard to follow and where the risk of a single point of failure (SPOF) is usually lowest.
Whether you end up satisfied with Zigbee, Z-Wave, EnOcean, or even Matter remains to be seen. None is particularly recommended because, alongside their advantages, each comes with a load of disadvantages. Matter won’t be an exception here.
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FrankChief16 Nov 2022 14:17@sysrun80 thanks
I will take another look before deciding what to choose.
I won’t need these items until about mid-next year (later would also be fine), but it makes sense to buy the right lamps from the start instead of buying basic ones and then replacing them with smart lamps.
What lamps would you recommend?
Philips Hue? It probably has the widest range.
Maybe Nanoleaf?
What about Wi-Fi lamps like Wiz (also from Philips or Signify) or Xiaomi Yeelight?
Which wireless standard would you choose for lamps, and what are the advantages of Zigbee lamps compared to Wi-Fi lamps?
@Mycraft is it possible to retrofit KNX without laying the bus cable? You mentioned something about that, but from what I’ve researched, it doesn’t seem feasible.
I will take another look before deciding what to choose.
I won’t need these items until about mid-next year (later would also be fine), but it makes sense to buy the right lamps from the start instead of buying basic ones and then replacing them with smart lamps.
What lamps would you recommend?
Philips Hue? It probably has the widest range.
Maybe Nanoleaf?
What about Wi-Fi lamps like Wiz (also from Philips or Signify) or Xiaomi Yeelight?
Which wireless standard would you choose for lamps, and what are the advantages of Zigbee lamps compared to Wi-Fi lamps?
@Mycraft is it possible to retrofit KNX without laying the bus cable? You mentioned something about that, but from what I’ve researched, it doesn’t seem feasible.
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