Hello everyone,
perhaps some of you already have practical experience with electric cars and charging stations. We are about to start the wiring for our new double garage. Attached is a sketch:
Next to the distribution board, there will also be a 16A or 32A outlet. Do you think the number of outlets might be too many? And the main question:
1. Where would you generally place wallboxes? Closer to the garage entrance or inside the garage?
2. For a double garage, would you rather go for two wallboxes?
perhaps some of you already have practical experience with electric cars and charging stations. We are about to start the wiring for our new double garage. Attached is a sketch:
Next to the distribution board, there will also be a 16A or 32A outlet. Do you think the number of outlets might be too many? And the main question:
1. Where would you generally place wallboxes? Closer to the garage entrance or inside the garage?
2. For a double garage, would you rather go for two wallboxes?
The e-UP is expected to be produced until 2025, but currently, the order books are (again) closed. That will change, though.
I can only recommend it ;-)
Install a wallbox close to the garage door because
a) parking forward is more convenient
b) nose-in chargers/front-loaders are rather rare (mostly plug-in hybrids, which I wouldn’t plan for)
c) you won’t want to charge two cars every day
Design the incoming supply and circuit protection for 22kW so that a second wallbox could be branched off in the future.
If you buy a wallbox with a permanently attached charging cable—which most have—choose a cable longer than 7m (23 feet). This way, you could also charge a vehicle parked on the other side, although the cable would be routed behind the other vehicle. This shouldn’t be a problem in daily use, and if it is, see above (branching off a second wallbox).
I can only recommend it ;-)
Install a wallbox close to the garage door because
a) parking forward is more convenient
b) nose-in chargers/front-loaders are rather rare (mostly plug-in hybrids, which I wouldn’t plan for)
c) you won’t want to charge two cars every day
Design the incoming supply and circuit protection for 22kW so that a second wallbox could be branched off in the future.
If you buy a wallbox with a permanently attached charging cable—which most have—choose a cable longer than 7m (23 feet). This way, you could also charge a vehicle parked on the other side, although the cable would be routed behind the other vehicle. This shouldn’t be a problem in daily use, and if it is, see above (branching off a second wallbox).
guckuck2 schrieb:
The e-UP is expected to be produced until 2025, but currently the order books are (again) closed. However, that is likely to change.
I can only recommend it ;-)
Install a wallbox near the front of your parking space because
a) pulling in forwards is more convenient
b) nose-in/front-in parking spots are relatively rare (mostly plug-in hybrids, which I would not count on)
c) you won’t want to charge two cars every day
Design the supply line and circuit protection for 22 kW so that you could add a second wallbox in the future if needed.
If you buy a wallbox with a permanently attached charging cable – which is the case for most models – then choose one with a cable longer than 7 meters (over 23 feet). This way, you could also charge a vehicle parked on the opposite side, albeit with the downside that the cable would run behind the other car. This usually isn’t a big issue in everyday use, and if it is, see above (adding a second wallbox). I like your optimism and would wish the same for our country if VW really started producing and selling this very nice electric car again. The only difference is that I don’t share the confidence that this will happen within the next 2-3 years. And in my opinion, by then it will be too late for VW 😳
We also have a wallbox with a 6.5 m (21 ft) charging cable, and I can say that anything much shorter would be less practical. By the way, our wallbox is installed outdoors.
For reference, the parking space is 6 m (20 ft) wide, and the doors can open at least 50 cm (20 inches) beyond this width on both sides (onto flower beds or grass). So effectively almost like 7 m (23 ft). For comfort reasons, I wouldn’t want to go much shorter than that either.
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DaGoodness24 Sep 2022 11:37We have our wallbox mounted on the front right wall inside the garage as you drive in. Since we currently have a Hyundai Kona (front charging port), I can reverse into the garage and easily charge from the front. If we ever get another EV with a charging port on the rear right, I would then drive in forward and have the wallbox directly next to the car’s charging port.
Our car is also sometimes parked in front of the garage. In that case, it is parked forward in front of the garage, the cable is connected, and the garage door is closed. Since the bottom of the door has a rubber seal, it doesn’t damage the cable.
Regarding the width, I am also doubtful. Our garage has an internal width of about 3.60 meters (12 feet), which I find just about sufficient for one car. I can’t imagine how two cars would fit in less than 7 meters (23 feet).
Our car is also sometimes parked in front of the garage. In that case, it is parked forward in front of the garage, the cable is connected, and the garage door is closed. Since the bottom of the door has a rubber seal, it doesn’t damage the cable.
Regarding the width, I am also doubtful. Our garage has an internal width of about 3.60 meters (12 feet), which I find just about sufficient for one car. I can’t imagine how two cars would fit in less than 7 meters (23 feet).
i_b_n_a_n schrieb:
Is this off-topic? Can VW ever supply the VP Up E again (more importantly: DOES VW want to sell this car again?) Further off-topic: I would rather look at the subsidiary…
Okay, there will only be one charger on the right side. The wallbox at the front is just being prepared, with cables installed. Only one car is expected to park inside, with bicycles arranged on one side. This way, we avoid the "cramming" problem. If we’re away for a longer period (e.g., on vacation), it’s still possible to squeeze in the cars when needed :-)
What are your thoughts on ventilation?
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/positionsempfehlung-wallbox-in-doppelgarage.44194/page-2#post-596798
What are your thoughts on ventilation?
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/positionsempfehlung-wallbox-in-doppelgarage.44194/page-2#post-596798
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WilderSueden24 Sep 2022 20:59DaGoodness schrieb:
I’m also skeptical about the width. Our garage has an internal dimension of about 3.60m (12 feet), and I think that’s just about okay for one car. I can’t imagine how you’d fit two cars in less than 7m (23 feet). It’s possible, but it always gets more complicated. We currently have a stacker parking system with about 2.30m (7.5 feet), then there are steel beams. Only the driver can sit inside initially; everyone else has to get in afterward. With a child, this is quite inconvenient.
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