ᐅ Roof Pitch and Knee Wall Height When Planning a Flat Dormer
Created on: 11 Sep 2022 10:26
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epinephrin
Now I finally dare to ask a question, as my ability to visualize often lets me down...
We are currently planning the floor layout for a solid construction with a general contractor. The regulations in the development plan are as follows:
Floor area ratio 0.4
Plot ratio 0.8
2 full stories allowed – ridge height 8.80 m (29 ft)
Any roof type allowed (except barrel and pagoda roofs)
Gable roof 30–45 degrees, hip roof 25–35 degrees permitted
After initially having a rather long wish list (open space, window seat, bay window/dormer, open straight staircase) for about 165–170 sqm (1780–1830 sq ft) of living space, we have already made some compromises. What remains is the desire for a dormer with a window seat on the upper floor (similar to the example photo).
Now the question arises regarding the optimal ceiling height and roof pitch. Our general contractor has been trying to convince us to go with 2 full stories (for practical reasons?). For us, however, 2 full stories would only fit a city villa style; a gable roof starting at 30° on a 2-story house looks very bulky to me. Am I right? I can’t quite imagine how a 25-degree hip roof would look with such a dormer.
So, in my view, for the roof with dormer, the only options are:
We are currently stuck in our thoughts; we have looked at different knee wall heights and roof pitches, but we are unsure which would be the most suitable for the dormer. Our general contractor is very practical and, as mentioned, would prefer 2 full stories (for furnishing reasons) plus at least a 30° roof pitch for the use of a cold attic space. But wouldn’t that just be a bulky box?
I’m looking forward to hearing the opinions of the forum experts here... 🙂
We are currently planning the floor layout for a solid construction with a general contractor. The regulations in the development plan are as follows:
Floor area ratio 0.4
Plot ratio 0.8
2 full stories allowed – ridge height 8.80 m (29 ft)
Any roof type allowed (except barrel and pagoda roofs)
Gable roof 30–45 degrees, hip roof 25–35 degrees permitted
After initially having a rather long wish list (open space, window seat, bay window/dormer, open straight staircase) for about 165–170 sqm (1780–1830 sq ft) of living space, we have already made some compromises. What remains is the desire for a dormer with a window seat on the upper floor (similar to the example photo).
Now the question arises regarding the optimal ceiling height and roof pitch. Our general contractor has been trying to convince us to go with 2 full stories (for practical reasons?). For us, however, 2 full stories would only fit a city villa style; a gable roof starting at 30° on a 2-story house looks very bulky to me. Am I right? I can’t quite imagine how a 25-degree hip roof would look with such a dormer.
So, in my view, for the roof with dormer, the only options are:
- Gable roof with a minimum pitch of 30° + knee wall height 1.8 m (or higher?)
- Gable roof with a steep pitch of 45° and knee wall height 0.8–1 m
- Hip roof pitch 25° with 2 full stories or 1.5 stories with a high knee wall
We are currently stuck in our thoughts; we have looked at different knee wall heights and roof pitches, but we are unsure which would be the most suitable for the dormer. Our general contractor is very practical and, as mentioned, would prefer 2 full stories (for furnishing reasons) plus at least a 30° roof pitch for the use of a cold attic space. But wouldn’t that just be a bulky box?
I’m looking forward to hearing the opinions of the forum experts here... 🙂
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epinephrin11 Sep 2022 21:5911ant schrieb:
There is even more at the source ... since Friday, the complete house-building schedule series is available 🙂 I've already gone through a good part of the elephant 😎
11ant schrieb:
Where do the square meter numbers actually come from? Ground floor
- Living / dining 40 m² (430 ft²)
- Kitchen 14 m² (150 ft²)
- Office 10 m² (110 ft²)
- Utility / technical room 10 m² (110 ft²)
- Shower toilet 3 m² (32 ft²)
- Hall / cloakroom 13 m² (140 ft²)
—> 90 m² (970 ft²)
Upper floor
- Bedroom 13 m² (140 ft²)
- Dressing room 9 m² (97 ft²)
- Bathroom 13 m² (140 ft²)
- Child 1 17 m² (180 ft²)
- Child 2 17 m² (180 ft²)
- Reading nook (around bay window / dormer) 3 m² (32 ft²)
—> 72 m² (775 ft²)
The whole building is planned without a basement, so a cold roof with at least a 25-degree pitch will be necessary.
epinephrin schrieb:
I've already tackled quite a bit of the elephantI'm glad to hear that 🙂 epinephrin schrieb:
- Living / Dining 40 m² (430 sq ft)... and those individual square meter numbers again?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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epinephrin11 Sep 2022 23:4111ant schrieb:
... and those individual square meter figures again?These were the considerations regarding how large the rooms should roughly be and what room requirements this would result in. All, of course, approximately +/- … Was this approach mistaken?
epinephrin schrieb:
Approached incorrectly?No, I just asked a simple clarifying question...epinephrin schrieb:
These were the considerations about approximately how large the rooms should be and thus what space requirements we end up with.... to understand your methodology: “adopted/derived from a model” / “guesswork” / “what we have now, plus an improvement margin”? ...epinephrin schrieb:
Of course, all with some margin of error +/-... meaning: if the banker frowns, the figures get reduced by increments of x percent?https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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I find a 30° roof on a two-story house quite appealing and not bulky. It also depends on what else is around the area. If there are mostly bungalows nearby, it looks different than if all the buildings are two stories. If I had the choice, I would also build two full stories. Maybe I would reduce the eaves height on the sides to 2m (6 ft 7 in) or 1.80m (5 ft 11 in) to make it a bit more pleasing.
Your example picture also shows a two-story house in my opinion – if you like it that way, then go ahead and build it like that.
Your example picture also shows a two-story house in my opinion – if you like it that way, then go ahead and build it like that.