Good morning,
I just received a steep price increase from my energy provider enercity, raising the cost to 15 cents per kWh starting in August. That’s really tough, and I think prices will rise even further.
It’s a strange feeling to be thrown back so quickly into an energy supply situation where you have to figure out how to keep the house warm. It seems to me that the government has given up on the goal of enabling everyone to adequately cover at least their basic needs.
Goodbye central supply structures; now the winner is whoever has solar panels and a heat pump in their new build, while the others are left out.
Welcome back, coal heating 😕
Frustrated regards,
I just received a steep price increase from my energy provider enercity, raising the cost to 15 cents per kWh starting in August. That’s really tough, and I think prices will rise even further.
It’s a strange feeling to be thrown back so quickly into an energy supply situation where you have to figure out how to keep the house warm. It seems to me that the government has given up on the goal of enabling everyone to adequately cover at least their basic needs.
Goodbye central supply structures; now the winner is whoever has solar panels and a heat pump in their new build, while the others are left out.
Welcome back, coal heating 😕
Frustrated regards,
Mycraft schrieb:
Certainly, because these parties try to find a middle ground and are generally positioned more towards the center of society compared to the larger ones.That is definitely true, but in my opinion, energy policy should not follow any particular political direction when science clearly points to the right path. The fact that there are parties ignoring the scientific consensus and taking funding from the coal industry completely disqualifies them. Saying that the CDU has made an effort regarding renewables is entirely out of touch with reality.
I would like to contribute to this topic and share my current situation:
I signed my contract with E.on for electricity and gas in September 2021. The contract started on January 1, 2022, and runs until December 31, 2022, with a 12-month price guarantee. The current rates are:
Gas = 6.75 cents/kWh + €127.37 per year base charge based on an estimated 10,000 kWh (should be around €800) - €140 bonus
Electricity = previously 28.xx cents; from July 1, 2022 = 23.93 cents/kWh + €165.39 per year base charge based on an estimated 3,000 kWh (should be around €950) - €170 bonus
Now I’m wondering what will happen after December 31, 2022. Should I just let the contract continue and hope my provider does not sharply increase prices as of January 1, 2023, or should I switch now to avoid even higher prices in December/January? What are your experiences? I doubt prices will drop over the winter...
When I use well-known comparison websites, they show a monthly payment for gas of over 40.00 cents/kWh, totaling more than €350 per month. With my default supplier, it’s just under 20.00 cents/kWh and a monthly payment of €175.
For electricity, prices start at 60 cents/kWh and €170 per month, while with the default supplier it is 37 cents/kWh and €100 per month.
Therefore, my approach will probably be to sign a new electricity contract this week for the period from January 1 to December 31, 2023 (at about 30 cents/kWh through a currently running promotion) and keep the gas contract as is. If prices do increase there, I will have to switch to the default supply. Unless someone here knows of a way to get a “discounted” gas tariff?
I signed my contract with E.on for electricity and gas in September 2021. The contract started on January 1, 2022, and runs until December 31, 2022, with a 12-month price guarantee. The current rates are:
Gas = 6.75 cents/kWh + €127.37 per year base charge based on an estimated 10,000 kWh (should be around €800) - €140 bonus
Electricity = previously 28.xx cents; from July 1, 2022 = 23.93 cents/kWh + €165.39 per year base charge based on an estimated 3,000 kWh (should be around €950) - €170 bonus
Now I’m wondering what will happen after December 31, 2022. Should I just let the contract continue and hope my provider does not sharply increase prices as of January 1, 2023, or should I switch now to avoid even higher prices in December/January? What are your experiences? I doubt prices will drop over the winter...
When I use well-known comparison websites, they show a monthly payment for gas of over 40.00 cents/kWh, totaling more than €350 per month. With my default supplier, it’s just under 20.00 cents/kWh and a monthly payment of €175.
For electricity, prices start at 60 cents/kWh and €170 per month, while with the default supplier it is 37 cents/kWh and €100 per month.
Therefore, my approach will probably be to sign a new electricity contract this week for the period from January 1 to December 31, 2023 (at about 30 cents/kWh through a currently running promotion) and keep the gas contract as is. If prices do increase there, I will have to switch to the default supply. Unless someone here knows of a way to get a “discounted” gas tariff?
Basti2709 schrieb:
Unless someone here knows a way to get a gas tariff at a "discounted" rate? Gas tariffs are usually regional. How can anyone help you if you don’t provide your postal code here?
Basti2709 schrieb:
Now I naturally wonder what will happen after December 31, 2022. Should I just let the contract continue and hope my provider doesn’t drastically increase prices on January 1, 2023, or should I switch now to avoid even higher prices in December/January? What are your experiences here? I hardly think prices will drop over the winter...? Have you asked e.on about the current conditions for extending your contract for another 12 months? That should be possible now. Basically, e.on has planned for you as an existing customer and hopefully secured a certain quota for you contractually. If you switch elsewhere to the basic supply or as a new customer without a contract term, you will likely receive expensive ad-hoc spot prices – and that costs!
With our electricity provider, I recently secured a new 12-month contract for 32.x cents/kWh, while our existing contract with 25.x cents/kWh runs until January 31, 2023, and the new one will start afterwards. If I switched now, I would be paying 49.1 cents/kWh.
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xMisterDx6 Sep 2022 20:32At the moment, it’s impossible to give any solid advice.
There might still be a basic tariff introduced for gas. There could also be an overall gas price cap implemented. The “critical phase” for gas prices will only begin when heating systems start up in October or next spring, when the bills start coming in...
Signing a contract now with gas at 40 cents/kWh for 12 or 24 months could be disastrous if the situation eases in 2023 and the gas price falls to 20 or 15 cents. This scenario is significantly more realistic than gas prices rising to 50 or 60 cents/kWh.
Why?
On one hand, prices are currently driven by panic in the financial markets and speculation. Yesterday, I read on ntv that “investors” are currently buying gas and electricity... Investors want returns, nothing more, nothing less.
On the other hand, every dealer has a strong interest:
The addict must neither die nor become clean. So prices are managed in a way that ensures good profits but doesn’t push the addicted to rethink by setting prices too high.
There might still be a basic tariff introduced for gas. There could also be an overall gas price cap implemented. The “critical phase” for gas prices will only begin when heating systems start up in October or next spring, when the bills start coming in...
Signing a contract now with gas at 40 cents/kWh for 12 or 24 months could be disastrous if the situation eases in 2023 and the gas price falls to 20 or 15 cents. This scenario is significantly more realistic than gas prices rising to 50 or 60 cents/kWh.
Why?
On one hand, prices are currently driven by panic in the financial markets and speculation. Yesterday, I read on ntv that “investors” are currently buying gas and electricity... Investors want returns, nothing more, nothing less.
On the other hand, every dealer has a strong interest:
The addict must neither die nor become clean. So prices are managed in a way that ensures good profits but doesn’t push the addicted to rethink by setting prices too high.
In addition, the current market prices for gas are significantly inflated due to our trading hub and also Uniper. Because of the required storage levels, all prices are essentially paid by the (partially) state-owned companies. Furthermore, many quantities are fixed, with only small amounts available, leading to even greater price fluctuations. Right now, no one can afford to have customers they haven't planned for.
SumsumBiene6 Sep 2022 21:10OWLer schrieb:
No one can currently afford to have clients they haven't planned for.I noticed the same yesterday when both comparison websites showed me exactly 0 results.
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