ᐅ Gas Prices – Where Is Gas Still Affordable?

Created on: 14 Jul 2022 09:22
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Reinhard84.2
Good morning,

I just received a steep price increase from my energy provider enercity, raising the cost to 15 cents per kWh starting in August. That’s really tough, and I think prices will rise even further.

It’s a strange feeling to be thrown back so quickly into an energy supply situation where you have to figure out how to keep the house warm. It seems to me that the government has given up on the goal of enabling everyone to adequately cover at least their basic needs.

Goodbye central supply structures; now the winner is whoever has solar panels and a heat pump in their new build, while the others are left out.

Welcome back, coal heating 😕

Frustrated regards,
Mycraft7 Aug 2022 08:38
Yes, that’s true—the energy transition is supported or accepted by the public. Complaining always happens; that’s just human nature. However, there is no question of it being half-hearted. Of course, more can always be done, but in my opinion, the progress made is still impressive.
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Neubau2022
7 Aug 2022 09:01
Mycraft schrieb:

Yes, that’s how it is – the energy transition is supported or accepted by the population. People will always complain; that’s human nature. But calling it half-hearted is not accurate. Of course, more could always be done, but in my opinion, what has been achieved is still impressive.

Really? And that’s why we have problems now, because so much has been achieved? The issue with all parties is that action only takes place after something happens or people even die. For example, in my view, the foolish decision to phase out nuclear power simply because something happened in Japan. It doesn’t make sense unless this is decided EU-wide, especially when nuclear plants still operate just across the borders. And if, for example, nuclear power were supported, I’m confident research could continue, and the problem of waste disposal would eventually resolve itself—not today, but within a few years. The same goes for the limited range of electric vehicles.
Mycraft7 Aug 2022 09:34
Yes, we are significantly further ahead in terms of "clean energy" today than we were 20 years ago.

Furthermore, at the moment, our issue is not with electricity but with gas. Nuclear power plants supply the former and therefore only help us to a limited extent or not at all in the current situation, as they cannot deliver or produce gas.

Nevertheless, I am also pro-nuclear and I am the one with the "yes to nuclear power" sticker.
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danielohondo
7 Aug 2022 10:05
Mycraft schrieb:

Yes, we are significantly further ahead today in terms of “clean energy” than we were 20 years ago.

Furthermore, at the moment we do not have issues with electricity but with gas. Nuclear power plants provide the former and only help us to a limited extent or not at all in the current situation, as they cannot supply or produce gas.

Nevertheless, I am also pro nuclear power and I am the one with the “please, nuclear power” sticker.
Currently no problem with electricity, but it will look different in winter if the nuclear power plants are shut down on 31.12.
Mycraft7 Aug 2022 10:08
Too short and too simplistic. Please try again.
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danielohondo
7 Aug 2022 10:10
chand1986 schrieb:

Horst Lüning considered (or still considers?) human-caused global warming a conspiracy theory, arguing that the greenhouse effect itself cannot exist.

The video series is no longer available from him. If he has changed his views, he does not make this transparent.

I don’t think it’s a reliable source of information. Of course, it’s a source of opinion, which is legitimate, but I’m not clear on where this is supposed to lead.

I’m not familiar with this series and was referring to his opinion on gas supply.

I also share his view. Essentially, he says one should not be 50% dependent on a single supplier.

We are now much further ahead than 30 years ago, and the combination of nuclear power plants and renewable energy would be the ideal mix. No CO2 emissions, and the nuclear plants compensate for fluctuations. You don’t need 50 reactors like in France. For example, China already operates a thorium reactor.