ᐅ Gas Prices – Where Is Gas Still Affordable?

Created on: 14 Jul 2022 09:22
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Reinhard84.2
Good morning,

I just received a steep price increase from my energy provider enercity, raising the cost to 15 cents per kWh starting in August. That’s really tough, and I think prices will rise even further.

It’s a strange feeling to be thrown back so quickly into an energy supply situation where you have to figure out how to keep the house warm. It seems to me that the government has given up on the goal of enabling everyone to adequately cover at least their basic needs.

Goodbye central supply structures; now the winner is whoever has solar panels and a heat pump in their new build, while the others are left out.

Welcome back, coal heating 😕

Frustrated regards,
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Marvinius
23 Jul 2022 20:11
MayrCh schrieb:

How often did the (even cumulative) feed-in power of the "renewables" actually drop to 0.0? Please also consider the "stable" renewables, such as run-of-river hydropower plants.

Is the electricity production from run-of-river hydropower sufficient to meet the demand of an industrialized country? I don’t think so. Besides, hydropower is hardly expandable here for geological reasons. Switzerland and Norway simply have very different conditions....
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Marvinius
23 Jul 2022 20:19
A way should definitely be found to cover at least the costs of gas power generation from the revenues of photovoltaic and wind power operators. This would be a socially necessary measure from a social policy perspective.
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MayrCh
23 Jul 2022 20:22
Marvinius schrieb:

Is the electricity production from run-of-river hydroelectric plants sufficient to meet the demand of an industrialized country? I don’t think so. Besides, due to geological reasons, hydropower is hardly expandable anymore in our region. Switzerland and Norway obviously have very different conditions…

Answer my question.
To answer yours: run-of-river hydro alone cannot cover the demand. Neither can any other single generation source. That is why we need an interconnected grid and a sensible energy mix.
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Marvinius
23 Jul 2022 20:53
MayrCh schrieb:

Answer my question.
To answer yours: Run-of-river hydropower plants alone cannot meet the demand. Neither can any other single generation method. That is why we need an interconnected grid and a sensible energy mix.

Photovoltaic systems drop to 0.0 kWh every night (;). And then there is such a thing as calm wind conditions. And yes, calm wind can also occur overnight (;). Or even during a multi-week “dark doldrums” period in winter.
It is clear to everyone that solar and wind power cannot provide baseload power, at least not in the foreseeable future.
Biogas plants can, of course, run continuously and produce electricity at all times, but are all those corn monocultures really sustainable?
Perhaps a mix of biogas, hydropower, and nuclear energy would be a sensible solution...
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Marvinius
23 Jul 2022 21:09
Deliverer schrieb:

Actually, this whole wood discussion is unnecessary: We need to reach net zero CO2 within the next 10 to 30 years (there are different levels of acceptance here...). This won’t be possible within that timeframe if we burn wood. What we later define as "sustainable" and how we ration wood can be considered afterwards.

Net zero CO2, what a nonsense slogan! Are you aware that you yourself constantly exhale CO2? How can you then expect "net zero CO2"? 🙂 You could calculate the total CO2 emissions of humanity in one year. Basic knowledge of biology and proportional reasoning is enough for that…
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MayrCh
23 Jul 2022 21:13
Marvinius schrieb:

Zero CO2, what a nonsense slogan!
Accounting is not really your thing, is it?