ᐅ Optimization of Electrical Planning for a 140 m² Semi-Detached House

Created on: 28 Jun 2022 15:04
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ConnyJash
Hello everyone,

A meeting with the electrician for the electrical planning was arranged on relatively short notice. Based on comments from other threads and the inspection of the neighboring house—which has already been completed—I have created an initial draft of the electrical plan and would appreciate your feedback. I have attached the necessary layouts. Additionally, I have the following questions and notes:

Notes:
  • In the kitchen, I have only marked the "free" electrical outlets. Outlets for the oven, refrigerator, etc. are currently not included.
  • Single sockets are mostly installed where there is also a light switch. Otherwise, I have planned multiple sockets everywhere.
  • The wall lamps refer to the lighting of the staircase.
Questions:

  • The access points (APs) are to be powered via Power over Ethernet (PoE). I want to avoid visible cables running from the access point to the outlet. The electrician suggested installing the LAN socket about 1.5 cm (0.6 inches) flush-mounted, so a cable can be plugged in easily. Is 1.5 cm sufficient, or does the socket need to be recessed deeper?
  • I have read that APs perform best when mounted on the ceiling for signal distribution. Now the question is whether, given our compact house, wall mounting might also be possible, as I could then hide them, for example, in corners.
  • Do you see the need for a LAN connection in the bedroom? We currently do not plan to have a TV or similar devices there, and if so, I think Wi-Fi should be sufficient. What are your thoughts?
  • We have (unfortunately) not yet started the kitchen planning, so we do not have an installation plan for the kitchen. Is it still possible to create a mounting plan for the kitchen, or would this not make sense for the electrician? I am trying to schedule an appointment at the kitchen studio at short notice but cannot guarantee it.
  • What can be improved? Did I forget anything?

Best regards,
ConnyJash

Legend with symbols for access point, socket, lamp, ceiling spot, and LAN.


Floor plan of a house with furniture, outlets, server cabinet, extractor hood, garage


Floor plan of a house with lighting concept: stairwell and mirror lighting marked.


Floor plan with rooms, blue 2, red X, move bed to make space for two bedside tables
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hanse987
30 Jun 2022 22:42
Pwnage619 schrieb:

Which access points (APs) would you recommend?

Many use Unifi, but there are also options like TP-Link Omada, which is said to offer good value for money.

Netgear is also known to have good APs.

Which ones are the best?

I believe they all basically perform the same. Very few people have experience with multiple manufacturers because once you choose one, you usually stick with it.

I chose Unifi and have stayed with it. I have no experience with other brands, although they might also offer good APs.
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motorradsilke
1 Jul 2022 06:37
Regarding the roller shutter switches, I would consider when you plan to use the shutters. We also thought about installing a central switch but decided against it for cost reasons, and we are glad we did because we never lower all the shutters at the same time. Others close their shutters when leaving the house and appreciate having a central control for that.
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Pwnage619
1 Jul 2022 07:40
So the manufacturer of the access point is initially of secondary importance since they probably all work the same or similarly.

Which video doorbell would you recommend?

I haven’t found any that don’t have some negatives :/
Doorbird is said to have quality issues.

The doorbell shouldn’t be too expensive either :/
i_b_n_a_n1 Jul 2022 07:59
Pwnage619 schrieb:

So, the manufacturer of the access point is initially of secondary importance since they probably all work the same or similarly.

Which video doorbell can you recommend?

I haven’t found one without any negatives :/
Doorbird is said to have quality issues.

The doorbell shouldn’t be too expensive either :/

Claiming that all access points are similarly good is quite bold. No, that’s not the case. Each manufacturer has its own approach, and the quality can vary more or less depending on the product. If you are looking for an access point with PoE, I tend to recommend Unifi (they are reasonably priced relative to performance but not “cheap”; they require a software controller, at least once during setup).

… what does “not too expensive” mean? If you don’t have a budget of at least 1500€ (about $1600) for a video doorbell, then forget it (you’ll only be able to run a duplex LAN cable). It’s not only the components that cost money, but also the electric strike or motorized lock itself. Installation is not something everyone can do, so that cost needs to be considered as well.

I’m happy with my Dahua, but I have better purchasing conditions than most others. 😉
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Pwnage619
1 Jul 2022 09:56
We have a front door with a triple automatic lock (mechanical locking) and an A-opener.

We will prepare the appropriate 4x0.8 Jysty cable for the new ekey xLine or sLine (either separately or integrated into the video doorbell) and run it to the distribution panel.

Currently, the budget is quite tight, so we don’t want to spend €1500 on a video doorbell.

I have also considered installing a wireless video doorbell (many people are satisfied with these doorbells).

As an optimal preparation, would it make sense to install a CAT Duplex cable and a standard doorbell first, and replace it later?
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ConnyJash
7 Jul 2022 10:46
We have now had the appointment with the electrician. He suggests that we do not install any satellite sockets and that he credit us for them. Since we use Magenta TV, I also don’t see any need for them. Do you have any opinions or reasons to install satellite sockets after all?