ᐅ Floor plan of a single-family house approximately 170 m², without a basement, featuring a carport
Created on: 6 Jun 2022 20:07
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SandyBlack
Questionnaire about your floor plan
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size 477 m² (5,134 ft²)
Slope No
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary 14 x 14 meters (46 x 46 feet)
Setbacks South/North 5 m (16 ft); East/West 2.50 m (8 ft)
Number of parking spaces 2 (side by side)
Number of floors 2
Roof type Gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation East/West
Maximum heights / limits
Other regulations
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type Gable roof
Basement, floors No basement, 2 floors
Number of people, ages 3: 33, 32, and 1.5 years (4th planned)
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor
Ground floor: kitchen, living room, guest room, guest WC/shower, utility room, storage room, pantry
Upper floor: bathroom, laundry room, work corner, bedroom, 2 children’s rooms
Office: family use or home office? Home office 3 days per week
Guests per year approx. once a month grandparents visit overnight; plus approx. 3–6 additional visits per year
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern?
Open kitchen, kitchen island open, island preferred but not a must
Number of dining seats
Fireplace No
Music/home cinema wall Guest room to include “cinema”; 7.2.4 speakers + screen or TV
Balcony, roof terrace No
Garage, carport Double carport (5.50 m wide x 6 m long (18 x 20 ft) + storage room (5.5 m wide x 3 m long [18 x 10 ft])
Utility garden, greenhouse No
House design
Who designed it:
- Architect Architect of the house supplier
What do you like most? Why? Open layout; living room somewhat separated; straight staircase (not a must); guest WC not directly by the entrance but nicely connected to guest room; long corridor upstairs for window seat and extra play area for children; large children’s rooms; large bathroom; appealing corner terrace solution possible (NW)
What don’t you like? Why? Pantry too small – probably not very practical this way; guest room too small – integrating cinema difficult; living room too narrow (3.50 m / 11.5 ft); only 1 m (3.3 ft) width between staircase and wall (too narrow?); guest WC big enough?; kitchen too small? Kitchen (half) island probably hard to implement well; no dedicated home office space
Estimated price according to architect/planner: 500,000
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 550,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up, which details/extensions
- can you do without: straight staircase; guest WC not next to front door; kitchen island; possibly pantry accessible from kitchen; children’s rooms could be a bit smaller
- can’t you do without: guest room; open kitchen/dining area; guest WC with shower; home office space; bathroom with walk-in, level-access shower & bathtub
Why has the design turned out the way it is? E.g. standard design from planner? Developed jointly according to our wishes
What makes it especially good or bad in your view? Many of our wishes already implemented
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are we overlooking anything fundamental? What changes should we make? Is a narrow corridor a big issue?
The carport is planned as a double carport on the south side adjoining the recess of the utility room. It is intended to be 5.5 m (18 ft) wide x 9 m (30 ft) long, including a storage room with a length of 3 m (10 ft). Is the planned width sufficient for two cars side by side assuming no SUVs? We plan to use a station wagon like a Skoda Superb and a small car such as a Mercedes A-Class or Toyota Leaf.
The carport positioning is planned as follows:
The house itself would be pushed fully to the eastern building boundary to maximize the western garden area.
The current floor plan from the architect looks like this:
We have already considered some optimizations.
Central to our considerations is adding a second recess on the north side where the living room is, measuring 1 m (3.3 ft) long and 4 m (13 ft) wide, and including a laundry room on the upper floor to house washer and dryer.
This would allow reducing the size of the utility room on the ground floor significantly. We would shorten the utility room by 0.7 m (2.3 ft), leaving about 9 m² (97 ft²). The freed-up space would benefit the guest WC, guest room, and living room.
In the kitchen, we would like to extend the pantry fully along the wall and place the kitchen before it. We have tried to mark our ideas on the floor plan:
Is the kitchen large enough for a household of 3 to 4 people? An island solution will probably be difficult to realize, right?
Upstairs, the gained space from the recess would be used for the laundry room. In the plan shown below, we placed the study next to the laundry room; however, we have reconsidered and now prefer to position the work corner where the storage space currently is. The work corner doesn’t need much space, primarily just a desk about 1.60 m (5.2 ft) wide. If there is room for a small cabinet, that’s nice but not essential. Where we marked the study, we would instead plan a walk-in closet. Unfortunately, we have not found a better location for the work corner. We also considered moving it near the children’s rooms, but then the child bedrooms would probably become rather small (about 12–13 m² / 130–140 ft²). These will definitely be adjusted to the same size regardless.
Maybe you have some ideas.
The windows on the ground and upper floor are not finalized yet; these are currently placeholders.
We welcome all comments 🙂.
P.S.: Here is the old planning thread:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/bebauung-Grundstück-keller-ja-oder-nein.42556/
The planning has fundamentally changed since then, and the plot has meanwhile been remeasured.
Development plan / Restrictions
Plot size 477 m² (5,134 ft²)
Slope No
Site coverage ratio 0.3
Floor area ratio 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary 14 x 14 meters (46 x 46 feet)
Setbacks South/North 5 m (16 ft); East/West 2.50 m (8 ft)
Number of parking spaces 2 (side by side)
Number of floors 2
Roof type Gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation East/West
Maximum heights / limits
Other regulations
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type Gable roof
Basement, floors No basement, 2 floors
Number of people, ages 3: 33, 32, and 1.5 years (4th planned)
Space requirements on ground floor, upper floor
Ground floor: kitchen, living room, guest room, guest WC/shower, utility room, storage room, pantry
Upper floor: bathroom, laundry room, work corner, bedroom, 2 children’s rooms
Office: family use or home office? Home office 3 days per week
Guests per year approx. once a month grandparents visit overnight; plus approx. 3–6 additional visits per year
Open or closed architecture open
Conservative or modern construction modern?
Open kitchen, kitchen island open, island preferred but not a must
Number of dining seats
Fireplace No
Music/home cinema wall Guest room to include “cinema”; 7.2.4 speakers + screen or TV
Balcony, roof terrace No
Garage, carport Double carport (5.50 m wide x 6 m long (18 x 20 ft) + storage room (5.5 m wide x 3 m long [18 x 10 ft])
Utility garden, greenhouse No
House design
Who designed it:
- Architect Architect of the house supplier
What do you like most? Why? Open layout; living room somewhat separated; straight staircase (not a must); guest WC not directly by the entrance but nicely connected to guest room; long corridor upstairs for window seat and extra play area for children; large children’s rooms; large bathroom; appealing corner terrace solution possible (NW)
What don’t you like? Why? Pantry too small – probably not very practical this way; guest room too small – integrating cinema difficult; living room too narrow (3.50 m / 11.5 ft); only 1 m (3.3 ft) width between staircase and wall (too narrow?); guest WC big enough?; kitchen too small? Kitchen (half) island probably hard to implement well; no dedicated home office space
Estimated price according to architect/planner: 500,000
Personal price limit for house including fixtures: 550,000
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump
If you have to give up, which details/extensions
- can you do without: straight staircase; guest WC not next to front door; kitchen island; possibly pantry accessible from kitchen; children’s rooms could be a bit smaller
- can’t you do without: guest room; open kitchen/dining area; guest WC with shower; home office space; bathroom with walk-in, level-access shower & bathtub
Why has the design turned out the way it is? E.g. standard design from planner? Developed jointly according to our wishes
What makes it especially good or bad in your view? Many of our wishes already implemented
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are we overlooking anything fundamental? What changes should we make? Is a narrow corridor a big issue?
The carport is planned as a double carport on the south side adjoining the recess of the utility room. It is intended to be 5.5 m (18 ft) wide x 9 m (30 ft) long, including a storage room with a length of 3 m (10 ft). Is the planned width sufficient for two cars side by side assuming no SUVs? We plan to use a station wagon like a Skoda Superb and a small car such as a Mercedes A-Class or Toyota Leaf.
The carport positioning is planned as follows:
The house itself would be pushed fully to the eastern building boundary to maximize the western garden area.
The current floor plan from the architect looks like this:
We have already considered some optimizations.
Central to our considerations is adding a second recess on the north side where the living room is, measuring 1 m (3.3 ft) long and 4 m (13 ft) wide, and including a laundry room on the upper floor to house washer and dryer.
This would allow reducing the size of the utility room on the ground floor significantly. We would shorten the utility room by 0.7 m (2.3 ft), leaving about 9 m² (97 ft²). The freed-up space would benefit the guest WC, guest room, and living room.
In the kitchen, we would like to extend the pantry fully along the wall and place the kitchen before it. We have tried to mark our ideas on the floor plan:
Is the kitchen large enough for a household of 3 to 4 people? An island solution will probably be difficult to realize, right?
Upstairs, the gained space from the recess would be used for the laundry room. In the plan shown below, we placed the study next to the laundry room; however, we have reconsidered and now prefer to position the work corner where the storage space currently is. The work corner doesn’t need much space, primarily just a desk about 1.60 m (5.2 ft) wide. If there is room for a small cabinet, that’s nice but not essential. Where we marked the study, we would instead plan a walk-in closet. Unfortunately, we have not found a better location for the work corner. We also considered moving it near the children’s rooms, but then the child bedrooms would probably become rather small (about 12–13 m² / 130–140 ft²). These will definitely be adjusted to the same size regardless.
Maybe you have some ideas.
The windows on the ground and upper floor are not finalized yet; these are currently placeholders.
We welcome all comments 🙂.
P.S.: Here is the old planning thread:
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/bebauung-Grundstück-keller-ja-oder-nein.42556/
The planning has fundamentally changed since then, and the plot has meanwhile been remeasured.
SandyBlack schrieb:
However, we have no way of estimating how large or long the shadow of the house on the north side will actually be.Hmm…, that’s why I posted a picture of our north entrance. Okay, the roof is different from yours now. I probably should have taken a photo of the neighbor’s house 😎 Keep in mind that at 1 p.m. in summer, the sun is very, very high. There is hardly any shadow, so it’s above the ridge even on a two-story building. Then it moves, and the shadow on the north side shifts and becomes “smaller” on the house.SandyBlack schrieb:
That doesn’t look bad either... The volume would be similar to the current floor plan, right?No, never mind… different house, different floor plan 😉SandyBlack schrieb:
Basically, with the arrangement, we would be swapping garden space on the north for a sunny courtyard on the south. Is that right?No, not really. I’ve marked both, so there would be space for both. The over 5-meter (16 feet) width on the north side is, in my opinion, too valuable not to use, just as leftover space without an access point there. And in high summer, when the air is warm, the north terrace will be great.
In contrast, the southern sun on the terrace is more important in the “cooler” summer. During the darker months, the south-facing windows play a bigger role to bring sun and light into the house.
SandyBlack schrieb:
However, the terrace area where you marked the plants would probably need to be fenced. Otherwise, you'd be looking straight onto the driveway from the terrace.Hold on! That’s a misunderstanding! Hedges protect against unwanted views. A fence protects against trespassing. Katja drew you a hedge as a natural boundary between the terrace and driveway. I really like Katja’s floor plan but would tend more toward mine regarding garden and exits. You could also combine the two. But let’s wait for the architect’s draft now.
SandyBlack schrieb:
The section between the carport and the house would then be the storage room, measuring 3 x 6 meters (10 x 20 feet), right?Yes. SandyBlack schrieb:
Otherwise, you’d be looking directly from the terrace onto the driveway.No, you’d be looking at the hedge that I “planted” there. 😉 SandyBlack schrieb:
How large is the terrace planned in your picture?4 m x 5.6 m (13’ x 18’) SandyBlack schrieb:
What do you think about it?Well, if the parking space on the west side isn’t covered or enclosed, possibly. I also once tried a design with a north-facing terrace:
There’s still a small south-facing terrace as an alternative. This way, there’s a piece of land left on the north side that you could almost call a garden. 😉
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SandyBlack7 Jun 2022 22:03ypg schrieb:
Stop! That’s a misconception! Hedges protect against unwanted views and sights. A fence protects against trespassing. Katja drew a hedge for you as a natural boundary between the terrace and the driveway. Okay, but a silly question:
Doesn’t it take ages for the hedge to grow tall enough, and will it really be fully private?
ypg schrieb:
I like Katja’s floor plan a lot but would tend more towards mine regarding the garden and exits. They could be combined as well. We also like Katja’s idea. But the living room looks too narrow for us. We would prefer at least 4 meters (13 feet) in width. Currently, we even have over 5 meters (16 feet), which we really like.
ypg schrieb:
But wait for the architect’s draft first. We will 🙂
K a t j a schrieb:
4m x 5.6m (13ft x 18ft) Sounds like a good size. 🙂
K a t j a schrieb:
Well, if the parking space on the west side has no roof or walls, it might be an issue. Ah, damn—there’s always something... I hadn’t considered the allowable boundary construction. But if we leave out the storage room at each side, it should be allowed. Maybe you can get a 15 meter (50 feet) waiver from the boundary if all neighbors agree?
K a t j a schrieb:
I also tried a plan with a north-facing terrace:
There’s still a small south-facing terrace as an alternative. That way, there’s a leftover piece of land on the north side that you could almost call a garden. 😉 That’s nice too 🙂 But it’s hard for us to imagine a living room with the staircase that way and how it would look in real life.
What do you generally think about the driveway— is 6 meters (20 feet) wide enough to turn a car around?
SandyBlack schrieb:
Okay, but a dumb question:
Doesn’t it take forever for the hedge to grow tall enough, and will it really be fully private? No, 3-4 years depending on the variety.
SandyBlack schrieb:
Only the living room seems too narrow to us. We would like it to be at least 4 meters (13 feet) wide. It is exactly 4 meters (13 feet) – my American furniture in my vintage car program probably creates a false impression. Making the pantry smaller shouldn’t be a problem either.
SandyBlack schrieb:
What do you generally think about the driveway – is 6 meters (20 feet) wide enough to turn a car around?I don't think it's that far with you. You can probably just reverse out quicker.You have a turning circle in front of the plot, right? 😎
I want to remind you again that with under 500 sqm (about 5400 sq ft), you can’t just expect a “pick whatever you want” type of lot. If you feel like it and your kids and neighbors can tolerate it, you can painfully turn the car back and forth. Or you could drive through the hedge.
Or you simply remove it and drive over the lawn, or pave over the entire front area. You can practice parking in a 6-meter (about 20 feet) space on a supermarket parking lot on Sundays. That’s a serious suggestion. Personally, I wouldn’t want to deal with it and would probably just reverse in.
I sketched a few things, based on either Katja’s or your draft… those are always just under 200 sqm (about 2150 sq ft)… you really should consider slimming down a bit. It’s starting to get tight budget-wise. I also currently think that the straight staircase is quite risky…
I’m also wondering if you need to observe larger setback distances than 2.5 m (about 8 feet) when building upwards. Doesn’t the rule somehow apply that “the higher you build, the more setback you need”?
One more tip… while sketching again, I noticed: if you have a south or north terrace, you could skip a west-facing terrace, since the west side covers both south and north directions to some extent.
I want to remind you again that with under 500 sqm (about 5400 sq ft), you can’t just expect a “pick whatever you want” type of lot. If you feel like it and your kids and neighbors can tolerate it, you can painfully turn the car back and forth. Or you could drive through the hedge.
Or you simply remove it and drive over the lawn, or pave over the entire front area. You can practice parking in a 6-meter (about 20 feet) space on a supermarket parking lot on Sundays. That’s a serious suggestion. Personally, I wouldn’t want to deal with it and would probably just reverse in.
I sketched a few things, based on either Katja’s or your draft… those are always just under 200 sqm (about 2150 sq ft)… you really should consider slimming down a bit. It’s starting to get tight budget-wise. I also currently think that the straight staircase is quite risky…
I’m also wondering if you need to observe larger setback distances than 2.5 m (about 8 feet) when building upwards. Doesn’t the rule somehow apply that “the higher you build, the more setback you need”?
One more tip… while sketching again, I noticed: if you have a south or north terrace, you could skip a west-facing terrace, since the west side covers both south and north directions to some extent.
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