Hi everyone,
I’m starting a general discussion thread about Habeck’s photovoltaic Easter package. We are currently in the new construction phase and are considering waiting until all the details are clear. If it becomes interesting, do you have any information—or would you start right away? Without higher self-consumption, the topic of photovoltaics is becoming less and less attractive. I’ll quote an article on the subject:
“For private new builds, the coalition government aims to make the installation of photovoltaic systems standard. To this end, Habeck promised better funding rates and simplified use of photovoltaics.”
At first, I thought the Easter package mainly referred to commercial systems, but apparently, there is also support available for private homeowners.
I’m starting a general discussion thread about Habeck’s photovoltaic Easter package. We are currently in the new construction phase and are considering waiting until all the details are clear. If it becomes interesting, do you have any information—or would you start right away? Without higher self-consumption, the topic of photovoltaics is becoming less and less attractive. I’ll quote an article on the subject:
“For private new builds, the coalition government aims to make the installation of photovoltaic systems standard. To this end, Habeck promised better funding rates and simplified use of photovoltaics.”
At first, I thought the Easter package mainly referred to commercial systems, but apparently, there is also support available for private homeowners.
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WilderSueden26 Apr 2022 11:18We don’t have a dryer. The freezer, refrigerator, stove, and washing machine are fairly modern, but not exactly outstanding energy-saving models. Although, nowadays a smaller freezer consumes about 100 kWh (6 therms) per year, and a larger one around 200 kWh (12 therms). Otherwise, there isn’t much more. We have two laptops that aren’t used all day either, and most of the lighting is now LED (a few energy-saving bulbs that haven’t broken yet). The TV is used relatively rarely, usually to watch a movie in the evening. Even if I double the consumption of all large appliances, it still won’t reach 4000 kWh (240 therms).
Yes, you’re right. The heating, of course, runs on general electricity, which last year was billed at €25 (about $27) including the elevator and lighting. There’s definitely an economy of scale effect there.
As far as I know, private individuals can also receive the higher feed-in tariff. However, in that case, you are no longer allowed to use your own electricity. For typical system sizes in single-family homes, this probably isn’t the more economical option.
Scout** schrieb:
If you currently live in an apartment, you don’t pay for technical electricity directly but rather through heating costs: so pumps and operation of the gas boiler. In a single-family house, this quickly adds up to 300 to 500 kWh (18 to 30 therms) per year, which then appears directly on the electricity bill. Additionally, there is a controlled ventilation system in the house that also consumes 300 to 500 kWh (18 to 30 therms).
Yes, you’re right. The heating, of course, runs on general electricity, which last year was billed at €25 (about $27) including the elevator and lighting. There’s definitely an economy of scale effect there.
Neubau2022 schrieb:
Can anyone comment on the main topic? Who currently qualifies for subsidies? Is it possible for private customers to receive anything, or is it aimed at commercial operators who feed energy directly into the grid?
As far as I know, private individuals can also receive the higher feed-in tariff. However, in that case, you are no longer allowed to use your own electricity. For typical system sizes in single-family homes, this probably isn’t the more economical option.
So as a typical surplus-feed private operator, you haven't really gained much. Possibly (though this is not yet confirmed) the payment rate will be fixed retroactively from a certain date. But that's about it. The VAT issue might affect standard taxation depending on how it is implemented in Germany, but that is not part of the Easter package.
Primarily full feed-in operators and the major players were considered.
Primarily full feed-in operators and the major players were considered.
kati1337 schrieb:
We use an air-to-water heat pump, controlled residential ventilation, and household electricity, and our total consumption for three people is around 7,500 kWh.
It really depends on how you use it. Do you work from home?
That has a huge impact on our electricity bill.
Also, we hardly watch traditional TV (1-2 devices in the evening), but often play video games together in the evening (6-8 devices).
Working from home doesn’t just mean running two laptops, but also using four monitors in our case, lighting, coffee machine, and other things you’d usually use for free at the office. Yes, both of us work full-time from home, plus a dryer, OLED TV, American-style refrigerator, and robot lawnmower and vacuum cleaner—I'm afraid it all adds up.
Snowy36 schrieb:
Wow, what am I doing wrong then? We need 4000 kWh for two people across 200 sqm (2150 sq ft) of living space... And another 4000 kWh for heating and the electric car... I was only using 1500 kWh when I lived alone?! I have another question for everyone… because I couldn’t let it go, I measured the daily electricity consumption when we are at home and when we are not:
When we are home and not working from home: 10 kWh, when we are not home: 5 kWh. I find a 50% consumption when no one is home quite high. All our appliances are newly purchased… how can I find out where this high base load is coming from, and what is your consumption like in comparison?
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Stefan00126 May 2022 07:54There are, for example, electricity meters that plug directly into an outlet. You could get one of these and then check the individual devices (fridge, TV, router, etc.).
Alternatively, you can unplug the mentioned devices and observe the change on the electricity meter.
For a rough overview, you can also go through the individual circuit breakers. This will give you an idea of the consumption for each circuit.
Alternatively, you can unplug the mentioned devices and observe the change on the electricity meter.
For a rough overview, you can also go through the individual circuit breakers. This will give you an idea of the consumption for each circuit.
WilderSueden schrieb:
I don’t find that unrealistic at all. We have consistently used 700-800 kWh for years, and even in the last two years with a lot of home office and a small child, it’s only about 1000-1100 kWh. But that’s only possible if the kitchen stays cold (or do you cook with gas).
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