ᐅ Phases 1-3 with the architect and a fixed-price offer—is there any drawback?
Created on: 20 May 2022 14:09
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Araknis
Hello,
we want to have our future house designed by an architect and initially commission service phases 1–3. Due to the significant fluctuations in the expected billable costs, the architect has offered us a fixed-price quote. This is in zone 3 at the mid-rate and thus within the HOAI framework. I have read about problems arising when the architect’s fixed-price offer is below the minimum rates. Are there any other potential pitfalls with this approach if the fee rate is not below the minimum rate? Online, I only see this mentioned as a possible issue. However, I am not entirely sure if this is still a problem under the latest HOAI regulations.
Thank you!
we want to have our future house designed by an architect and initially commission service phases 1–3. Due to the significant fluctuations in the expected billable costs, the architect has offered us a fixed-price quote. This is in zone 3 at the mid-rate and thus within the HOAI framework. I have read about problems arising when the architect’s fixed-price offer is below the minimum rates. Are there any other potential pitfalls with this approach if the fee rate is not below the minimum rate? Online, I only see this mentioned as a possible issue. However, I am not entirely sure if this is still a problem under the latest HOAI regulations.
Thank you!
Smarti99 schrieb:
Reverse question: Why should I pay more if I can clearly get the same service on the market for less? That’s why I ask what you are expecting. In the case of an architect, it could be their refined talent developed during their studies to design a building (or simply their authorization to submit plans, for example, if a landlord thinks they can charge the same price per square meter for a poorly laid-out apartment and only needs the official approval stamp). To me, an academic service offered at a drug-dealer’s bargain price would be reason enough to suspect inferior skill, lack of motivation, or something similar. I wouldn’t buy a Rolex for fifty bucks—it’s probably fake or stolen. A “Rollex,” “Rohlex,” or “Rolecks” might be negotiable—that could spark a discussion about “plagiarism,” but you could likely rule out “stolen goods” ;-)
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Counter question: Does a Rolex show the time better than a G-Shock? Is the food at a discount store worse than elsewhere? Do you reach your destination better with a Porsche than with an Opel?
For standard houses, I don’t need a top architect. Also, an expensive service isn’t necessarily better than a cheaper one. There are plenty of examples of this in the forum. I prefer to rely on experience.
For standard houses, I don’t need a top architect. Also, an expensive service isn’t necessarily better than a cheaper one. There are plenty of examples of this in the forum. I prefer to rely on experience.
Smarti99 schrieb:
For standard houses, I don’t need an architect genius. Besides, an expensive service isn’t necessarily better than a cheaper one. However, a service that is not inferior is rarely offered at a discount price. In your example, I would expect an architect who just barely made it through their studies. What would motivate a fully trained professional to provide qualified work at an apprentice’s wage?
That’s why I used the Rolex example—it’s only sold at a bargain price when it’s counterfeit or stolen, not because it’s better. The last watch I bought was a Piratron for fourteen marks ninety-five, then I wore two promotional gifts, and now the built-in clocks on my phone and in my Opel are enough (there’s probably one in my Porsche as well, but it’s still at the dealer).
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Smarti99 schrieb:
You didn’t understand. Although the Opel contains cheaper parts, it will get you to your destination just like the Porsche. No, you didn’t understand. I can’t compare it to the Porsche yet, but I know from daily use that the Opel will get me to my destinations.
Smarti99 schrieb:
What can I say. I was absolutely satisfied with the price-performance ratio. You haven’t explicitly said it yet: was it actually the performance of a run-of-the-mill model, or what kind of results were expected from the architect?
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maulwurf7922 May 2022 15:41I also think this whole fuss about hiring an architect for a single-family house is completely over the top. There are thousands of floor plans available online, and the structural engineering for a single-family house is not rocket science.
I prepared my building permit / planning application myself, and a friend who is a master carpenter signed it, and that was that. Paid 630 euros (about 670 USD) in fees to the building authority, and construction could begin.
I prepared my building permit / planning application myself, and a friend who is a master carpenter signed it, and that was that. Paid 630 euros (about 670 USD) in fees to the building authority, and construction could begin.
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