ᐅ Window sill height 25 cm or 50 cm – height of fall protection

Created on: 1 May 2022 23:01
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Samantheus
Hello everyone,

we are currently undecided about the sill height for our windows on the upper floor.
  • Initially, we planned floor-to-ceiling windows.
  • For structural reasons, this was not possible, and we need a minimum rough sill height of 25cm (10 inches).
  • For aesthetic reasons, we then considered a sill height of 50cm (20 inches) (better living atmosphere inside, child can sit on it).
  • However, we were told that the windowsill is interpreted as a "stepping surface," so the French balcony must be 90cm (35 inches) above the top edge of the windowsill.

That’s the story/basis in brief. Now we are reconsidering and are torn between a sill height of 25cm and 50cm.

From our point of view, a sill height of 25cm favors a more harmonious fall protection height and more light in the room.
On the other hand, a 50cm sill height might make the room feel cozier inside and the windowsill can be used more, for example, to place toys on or for children to sit on. Also, with a sill height of 50cm, the distance to the ground floor windows is somewhat greater, which might make a potential future pergola or awning feel less cramped.

We are very uncertain how a 90cm (35 inches) fall protection above a 50cm sill would feel in the room. We have never seen anything like that in a show house or similar. In that case, the fall protection would end about 128cm (50 inches) above the finished floor level, which feels quite high. With a 25cm sill, it would only be 103cm (41 inches), which feels more comfortable (similar to sill height on stairs, etc.).

The key question:
Does anyone here have 50cm sill windows with fall protection and can share how that feels in a room? Maybe even a photo?
Would you recommend sill height 25cm or 50cm? Are we overlooking anything?

A few additional details:
- This concerns a total of 4 windows (2 windows in children’s rooms) and 2 windows in the bedroom.
- One bedroom window (facing an extension) cannot be lowered to 25cm sill height and must remain at 50cm sill height (due to the roof parapet).
- Windows are planned with white PVC frames on the inside, dark aluminum on the outside (DB 703).
- Windowsill Nero Assoluto, 3cm (1 inch) thick, not flush with plaster.
- Fall protection made of glass installed inside the window reveal directly at the window (Warema VisioNeo).

Link to planning thread (for info and completeness only): https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-planung-und-platzierung-efh-ca-200qm-auf-900qm-Grundstück.39104/

The facade images are just to better visualize the exterior; the fall protection shown there has incorrect (too low) dimensions.

Thanks in advance and best regards,
Sam

Floor plan:

Floor plan of a house: two children’s rooms, bathroom, utility room, stairs, hallway, and right extension/terrace area.


View sill height 25

View of southwest façade of a two-story house with terrace and large windows.


View sill height 50

Southwest view: modern house with dark roof, large windows, extension on the left, terrace.
11ant5 May 2022 00:17
karl.jonas schrieb:

I understand that. But I’m surprised that the French balcony doesn’t bother you.
If I understand correctly, it is limited to the edge of a frameless safety glass panel.
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Ysop***
5 May 2022 06:08
Just keep in mind that fixed glazing can be difficult to clean from the outside 🙂
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motorradsilke
5 May 2022 06:43
Ysop*** schrieb:

Just keep in mind that fixed glazing is not so easy to clean from the outside 🙂

And then a French balcony made of glass in front of it.

I don’t really understand these floor-to-ceiling windows on the upper floor anyway. Why do people do that? If you want more light, why not go for wider windows instead?
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WilderSueden
5 May 2022 11:02
Wider windows mean less space for cabinets.
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ypg
5 May 2022 12:00
Bathroom with sink, toilet, bathtub, mirror, and window with blinds

Living room: wall-mounted TV, console, two plants, daylight, standing paper lamp next to curtain.


In our old ERH, we had:
I believe the prefab height was about 25cm (10 inches). The lower window was fixed and didn’t require a French balcony.
Personally, I didn’t find a “half” French balcony with one or two additional rows of masonry appealing in either view.
You (I) could clean the lower fixed window elements very easily from the inside, which was also because the windows were not very wide and I was able to lean on them.

However, since we also experienced the absence of a balustrade in the bedrooms, today I would only build bedrooms on the upper floor with a balustrade.

Large dark wardrobe in front of yellow wall, window front on the left, white door on the right.
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motorradsilke
5 May 2022 21:10
WilderSueden schrieb:

Wider windows mean less space for cabinets.
But you can put sideboards under the windows instead;). In the end, it probably evens out. And who actually puts cabinets on every wall?