ᐅ Floor plan of a single-family detached house, urban villa style, approximately 2,600 sq ft, without a basement
Created on: 23 Apr 2022 11:06
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dkw8074
Hello,
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
dkw8074 schrieb:
we have a rectangle of about 29 x 40.5 Ok, thanks.
I took a stab at it. More or less in your handwriting, but with additional south-facing windows, a reasonably sized dining area, a pantry in the center or east side, etc. I had a nice rectangular entrance hall, a half-landing staircase, roughly the dimensions you had in mind, and still managed to save about 30sqm (320 sq ft). Oops!
I noticed that, as you can see, you’ve planned quite a few cantilevered sections on the façades. I put “planned” in quotation marks because I think you just added those bits here and there to make it fit better.
Then you end up enjoying all those protrusions—which you can still afford on a 750,000€ (about $800,000) budget (with a 50,000€ price buffer)—and the house becomes more interesting, almost unique.
However, a house width of around 24 meters (79 feet) on a 29 meter (95 feet) wide plot is quite something. Plus the overhang with the “hat brim.” I don’t understand why the entire width has to be used. Ultimately, you’re building a barrier on your own plot, and once the hedges grow on the sides, you’ll be able to access the backyard only with a narrow wheelbarrow. Since there was discussion about the south side and light, I want to point out that the wind comes from the west.
Long story short: I would rotate the house, making it more elongated than wide.
And I would seriously question whether this box with many projections and a hat-shaped roof is really where you want to spend your money, especially since “simpler” versions with fewer corners can look fantastic. “Simpler” meaning fewer recesses and protrusions.
For a budget of 750,000€ to 800,000€ (about $800,000 to $850,000), you should have an experienced architect do the planning—someone who knows how to bring natural light into a large house. Because the light that passes through the windows fades after just 4-5 meters (13-16 feet).
ypg schrieb:
Ok, thanks.
I had a go at it myself. Roughly following your style, but with additional south-facing windows, a reasonably sized dining area, a pantry in the center or on the east side, etc. I designed a nice rectangular hallway, a half-landing staircase, with dimensions roughly similar to what you had in mind, and ended up with 30 square meters (320 square feet) less. Oops!
I noticed that, as you can see, you’ve planned quite a few cantilevered sections on the facades. I put “planned” in quotes because I think you guys just added those protrusions here and there to make everything fit.
Then you get excited about all those bays and recesses – which you can probably afford on a budget of €750,000 (€50,000 of which is a contingency), and the house becomes more interesting, even uniquely individual.
However, a house width of around 24 meters (79 feet) on a 29-meter (95 feet) wide lot is quite something. The roof overhang with the eaves adds even more. I don’t understand why you always have to use the entire width. In the end, you build yourself a barrier on the property, so that once the hedge grows in on the sides, you can only access the backyard with a narrow wheelbarrow. And since there was a discussion about the southern side, light, etc., I’d like to point out that the prevailing wind comes from the west.
Long story short: I would rotate the house, making it more elongated than wide.
And I’d seriously reconsider whether this box with its many bays and roof eaves is really where you want to spend your money, especially when simpler versions with fewer corners can look amazing too. “Simpler” here meaning fewer projections.
With a budget of €750,000 to €800,000, you really should have an experienced architect plan it—someone who knows how to bring natural light into a large house. Because the light coming through the windows loses its effectiveness after about 4 to 5 meters (13 to 16 feet). Thank you very much for your thoughts and efforts! May I see the version with 30 square meters (320 square feet) less?
Regarding the orientation and position on the lot: we want to make use of the width because the view “in front,” towards the southwest, is currently garden and is unlikely to be built on any time soon. To the southeast, there is still a building plot of the same size, which will very likely be sold and developed soon. That’s why we want it as wide as possible; there will still be 4 meters (13 feet) and 3 meters (10 feet) respectively to the property boundaries.
We are restricted to gable roof or hipped roof constructions by local zoning, and we simply prefer the look of a hipped roof. Most of the cantilevers and projections probably came about due to changes and adjustments from the initial draft—certainly not optimal.
dkw8074 schrieb:
Is it acceptable to view the result with 30 sqm (323 sq ft) less? Unfortunately, I deleted that...
But here is an approach starting with the upper floor, then generating the ground floor afterwards.
With the privacy screen facing the street, reflecting your ideas, that’s what I had in mind...
Just quickly put together...
Oh, and it's also about 240 m² (2,583 sq ft)... I was referring to the idea of the orientation. I can provide measurements if needed.
You can afford the 240 m² (2,583 sq ft). So why save if you like it?!
However, I don’t see the size working well for you, as I find the open-plan area a bit awkward. But I have already mentioned that.
You can afford the 240 m² (2,583 sq ft). So why save if you like it?!
However, I don’t see the size working well for you, as I find the open-plan area a bit awkward. But I have already mentioned that.
ypg schrieb:
Unfortunately, I deleted that...
But here is a rough draft starting with the upper floor, then generating the ground floor afterward. With the privacy screen facing the street, as you suggested—that’s what I was thinking...
Just quickly put together...
Thank you very much for sharing—this looks really interesting. However, we definitely want to keep the orientation of the main rooms on the upper and lower floors because of the view. I do like your approach, though!
We will now consider how to proceed; it seems a new plan will be necessary...
Well 🙂 Children actually need the light more than the view. But you mean the bedroom, right?
Or on the ground floor? Then I would question the dining area, which is dark and without a view. That’s where people spend time, have a coffee, read the newspaper, and have moments to look outside.
And your sofa is also more oriented toward the TV and the fireplace. Maybe you should explain that to yourselves.
A great view is nice. But it doesn’t direct your life. So it should be incorporated, but not the other way around.
Or on the ground floor? Then I would question the dining area, which is dark and without a view. That’s where people spend time, have a coffee, read the newspaper, and have moments to look outside.
And your sofa is also more oriented toward the TV and the fireplace. Maybe you should explain that to yourselves.
A great view is nice. But it doesn’t direct your life. So it should be incorporated, but not the other way around.
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