ᐅ Floor plan of a single-family detached house, urban villa style, approximately 2,600 sq ft, without a basement
Created on: 23 Apr 2022 11:06
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dkw8074
Hello,
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
we now have a plan that is already quite advanced for us. We have been considering for a long time whether to include a basement or not, as well as whether to use the attic space (see also https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/ausbau-dachgeschoss-bei-walmdach-als-kellerersatz.43148/).
Building Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1170 m² (0.29 acres)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.4
Floor space index: 2
Number of parking spaces: 2 garage + 1 outdoor
Number of floors: 2
Roof type: hipped roof
Style: urban villa
Orientation: southwest
Owner Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: hipped roof urban villa
Basement, floors: trying to do without a basement
Number of occupants, age: 2 adults, 1 child currently
Space needs on ground floor and upper floor: rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive
Office: family use or home office? both
Guest stays per year: 10-15 times for 2-3 days
Open or closed architecture: open towards the garden
Conservative or modern design: I would say a mix; in any case, the staircase should not be in the living room
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen with pantry, a fully freestanding island is not necessary
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: yes
Balcony, roof terrace: no balcony, terrace with roof cover
Garage, carport: yes, 2 parking spaces plus motorcycle; 1 additional outdoor parking
Other wishes/special features/daily routine, including reasons why something should or should not be included
House Design
Who created the plan: a planner from a construction company
What do you particularly like? Why? We generally like the ground and upper floor because everything we wished for has been implemented
What do you dislike? Why? Placement of building services - perhaps try placing them under the stairs?
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 700k
Personal price limit for the house, including equipment: 800k
Preferred heating system: geothermal
If you have to give up something, which details/extensions
-can you do without: possibly a few square meters; a big question is whether the office/fitness room above the garage makes sense or if a basement would be better
-can’t give up: own master bathroom, laundry room upstairs
Why is the design the way it is now?
We had quite clear ideas based on reviewing standard floor plans. There were some changes and tests (basement yes/no, attic use yes/no).
What makes it, in your opinion, particularly good or bad? Very good implementation of our ideas and budget
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan summarized in 130 characters?
The approx. 30 m² (320 sq ft) room on the upper floor (office/fitness) and the larger storage room behind the garage are intended as a basement substitute. How do you like this solution with the partial overbuilding of the garage on the upper floor?
Thank you very much for your feedback!
...I just noticed: the drainage of the small bathroom on the upper floor is really quite interesting! 😡 Where is that stuff supposed to go? There’s nothing underneath it, just the entrance door...
And actually, this reminds me of the thread by R.Hotzenplotz that @11ant linked here. His house seemed similar, with many intentional corners and angles, but it was built by a general contractor – and quite a few things went wrong.
I can only warn against having a custom house built by a standard home builder. They get in over their heads, and in the end, the homeowner ends up with problems that extend far beyond the construction period.
Edit: I assume there will still be a toilet installed there, because a bathroom without a toilet or a separate toilet with stairs in between is really not functional.
And actually, this reminds me of the thread by R.Hotzenplotz that @11ant linked here. His house seemed similar, with many intentional corners and angles, but it was built by a general contractor – and quite a few things went wrong.
I can only warn against having a custom house built by a standard home builder. They get in over their heads, and in the end, the homeowner ends up with problems that extend far beyond the construction period.
11ant schrieb:
A suspicion that reminds one of R.Hotzenplotz https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundrissplanung-kurz-vor-bauantragsstellung.25647/ ? 🙂
Edit: I assume there will still be a toilet installed there, because a bathroom without a toilet or a separate toilet with stairs in between is really not functional.
ypg schrieb:
The problem... now I remember where the excessively large roof overhang comes from... that you somehow based your design on southern-style houses. Then you prepared this for the construction company and they had it drafted by a draftsman without an architect’s input. Actually, southern-style houses isn’t quite right, but of course, we looked at standard houses online. Yes, we left our ideas with the construction company.
ypg schrieb:
Off the top of my head, I would suggest putting the guest bathroom into the current cloakroom, the office/guest room into the current living room, the pantry into the current shower bathroom, and the dining area into the current kitchen (which feels quite cramped to me)... and so on... of course, some adjustments would be needed regarding all the projections and recesses.
Swap the fitness room with the bedroom upstairs, as @K a t j a briefly suggested, so the bathrooms would be aligned vertically on the north side again.
Putting the pantry in the south is like pearls before swine...! We will still try or discuss that approach. Aside from the orientation, there is also a view toward the terrace and garden, so we want to have as many living and sleeping rooms as possible facing that way. On the south side, the view is less attractive, and the neighboring lot will likely be built on as well.
ypg schrieb:
...I just noticed: the drainage of the small bathroom on the upper floor is quite, quite interesting! 😡 Where is that stuff supposed to go? There’s nothing underneath, just the entrance door...
And indeed, it makes me think of the thread by R.Hotzenplotz, which @11ant linked here. His house seemed similar, with many corners and edges that were intentional, but built by a general contractor – and a lot went wrong.
I can only warn against having a custom house built by a standard builder. They get in over their heads, and the owner ends up with problems that last well beyond the construction phase. We will also question that and review the overall planning again. The construction company doesn’t have standard models but only builds custom homes.
ypg schrieb:
Edit: I am, of course, assuming that a toilet will be installed there, since a bathroom without a toilet or a separate toilet with stairs between isn’t really functional. I don’t think this can be generally judged; if two children (plus possibly friends) are using the bathroom, I do find a separate toilet sensible.
dkw8074 schrieb:
Apart from the orientation, there is also a view/long-distance view towards the terrace and garden. Therefore, we want to place as many living and sleeping rooms as possible facing that direction. On the south side, the view is less appealing, and the neighboring plot might still be developed. No one intends to take your view away. However, by planning this extension, you are creating a bottleneck for that view.
Installing a large window on the south side and designing the open-plan living area accordingly does not mean you have to place the sofa in front of it… after all, the sun and light come from that direction—regardless of whether there is a neighbor next door.
dkw8074 schrieb:
We will definitely question that as well or take another overall look at the planning. The construction company doesn’t have standard models but only builds custom.
I don’t think this can be judged in general. If two children (plus possibly friends) are using the bathroom, I do think a separate toilet is sensible. But before taking a shower, you still have to use the toilet – that’s just how it is!
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Fuchsbau3523 Apr 2022 16:29Myrna_Loy schrieb:
“Rooms should be a comfortable size without being excessive.”
I find the entire floor plan of 240 m² (2,583 sq ft) extremely wasteful. The kitchen with the pantry looks more like it’s designed for a six-person household. That was my first thought too, but I didn’t want to be the first to say it and come across as harsh.
I think the project is somehow a bit too large, especially considering the current price developments, it will most likely exceed the budget.
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