ᐅ Retaining Higher-Level Neighboring Properties: L-Shaped Retaining Walls and Tips

Created on: 27 Feb 2021 14:31
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jaenno1
Hello everyone,

I need your expertise. Due to the new elevation of our new build, I have to retain neighboring properties that are higher. The required retaining height would be 1-1.5 m (3.3-5 feet).

My first choice was concrete retaining walls (L-shaped blocks), but I cannot install the footings pointing towards the neighbors, as this would significantly encroach on their land.

Do you have any ideas, tips, or alternatives for me?

Best regards
jaenno1
gutentag6 Apr 2022 15:48
11ant schrieb:

The civil engineers probably find the load case example diagrams in the DIN standard sufficient, while they might consider more detailed plans to be unnecessary detail ;-)

Yes, exactly, then the wrong L-shaped concrete blocks are installed, or even the footing ends up on the neighboring property.
Yaso2.06 Apr 2022 18:48
11ant schrieb:

The civil engineers probably find the load case example sketches in the DIN standard sufficient, and consider more detailed plans to be unnecessary fuss ;-)

Well, what can I say.

Last night I sent an email to the homeowners’ association responsible for the access road / private driveway, and someone called me today.

Since our property used to be a garden at the time, the owner of our plot gave verbal consent about 20 years ago to shift the curbstones toward our property.

There are no easements or other registrations or written notes, he said.

We are now meeting on Friday at the property to discuss together what kind of solution is possible.

He (who owns half of the shares in the association) has already assured me that he wants to keep things as straightforward as possible and will inform his tenants accordingly about possible driveway closures, etc.

What still needs to be clarified, depending on the solution, is the extent to which the association will contribute to the costs.

Then basically, everything old could be removed and everything redone..
gutentag7 Apr 2022 09:49
Yaso2.0 schrieb:

Then, depending on the solution, it would need to be clarified to what extent the community will share the costs.

So, you could basically remove everything old and replace it all with new.

The points are: damaged soil membranes in the south and incorrectly installed support feet are costs to be borne by the neighbors anyway.

The verbal agreement is worth nothing.
Yaso2.07 Apr 2022 10:03
gutentag schrieb:

Oral agreements are worthless.

It should almost be taken for granted that I cannot / should not rely on words alone! Others did the same 20 years ago, and you can see what the outcome can be...
Yaso2.010 Apr 2022 20:52
The meeting with the owners has taken place.

Conclusion: everyone agrees that “remove everything and start anew” is the best approach.

Regarding the costs, the owners will share the expenses proportionally for the affected area. There are 8 meters (26 feet) of incorrectly placed corner stones. This will, of course, be documented in writing.

The corner stones that need to be removed will also be reused by me on our driveway.

Now we are waiting for the quote, and then we will take it from there..
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TmMike_2
10 Apr 2022 20:56
Yaso2.0 schrieb:

The meeting with the owners has taken place.

Conclusion: everyone agrees that "tear it all down and start fresh" is the best approach.

Regarding the costs, the owners will share the expenses proportionally for the affected area. There are 8 meters (26 feet) of incorrectly placed corner bricks. This will, of course, be documented in writing.

I will also reuse the corner bricks that need to be removed for our driveway.

Now we are waiting for the quote and then we will take it from there..

These are the best possible news, right?
Just imagine if someone filed a lawsuit and everything got delayed by another 5 years or more.
Ink on paper and pop the corks.
Even if the prices might make you want to cry.