Hello everyone,
I have been silently reading here for years, but now I need to ask a question and hope to benefit from the collective knowledge here.
We will soon be moving into a new apartment (rental), and finally there will be proper Ethernet wiring. However, I have an issue with the power supply in the multimedia distribution panel there.
Installed is an enclosure from f-tronic with a socket unit that has three Euro sockets, see photo. I will need to plug in at least one Schuko plug for the switch, and depending on the modem, possibly two Schuko plugs. (To avoid questions, it is absolutely planned to use a UniFi Lite 16 PoE.)
I spoke with the electrician responsible about whether it would be possible to install a unit with Schuko sockets instead of the 3 Euro-socket part. He either cannot or, in my impression, does not want to make this change. The electrician’s suggestion was to rewire the cables, so instead of a Schuko, use a Euro plug with PE connected to N. I didn’t find that very good and suspect it may even be prohibited.
So I will solve this issue myself or have access to a certified electrician who will carry out the work.
My further research showed that the installed module internally actually has sockets with protective earth (PE) contacts and the option to connect neutral and PE there, see photos. However, these sockets are covered by a kind of cap from PinFix, which limits the sockets to Euro plugs. These caps cannot be removed by any means. What would be your recommendation to solve this problem?
I also found the module STECKD3K. At first glance, it looks exactly like the installed unit, only with Schuko sockets. According to the manufacturer, however, it is intended for other cabinet series, so I am not sure if it would fit. Can anyone answer this for me?
The manufacturer f-tronic is generally not very helpful. I have not received any response to an inquiry on this issue. Their documentation and product datasheets are of little help.
Thanks in advance and greetings to the admin (BB codes).
I have been silently reading here for years, but now I need to ask a question and hope to benefit from the collective knowledge here.
We will soon be moving into a new apartment (rental), and finally there will be proper Ethernet wiring. However, I have an issue with the power supply in the multimedia distribution panel there.
Installed is an enclosure from f-tronic with a socket unit that has three Euro sockets, see photo. I will need to plug in at least one Schuko plug for the switch, and depending on the modem, possibly two Schuko plugs. (To avoid questions, it is absolutely planned to use a UniFi Lite 16 PoE.)
I spoke with the electrician responsible about whether it would be possible to install a unit with Schuko sockets instead of the 3 Euro-socket part. He either cannot or, in my impression, does not want to make this change. The electrician’s suggestion was to rewire the cables, so instead of a Schuko, use a Euro plug with PE connected to N. I didn’t find that very good and suspect it may even be prohibited.
So I will solve this issue myself or have access to a certified electrician who will carry out the work.
My further research showed that the installed module internally actually has sockets with protective earth (PE) contacts and the option to connect neutral and PE there, see photos. However, these sockets are covered by a kind of cap from PinFix, which limits the sockets to Euro plugs. These caps cannot be removed by any means. What would be your recommendation to solve this problem?
I also found the module STECKD3K. At first glance, it looks exactly like the installed unit, only with Schuko sockets. According to the manufacturer, however, it is intended for other cabinet series, so I am not sure if it would fit. Can anyone answer this for me?
The manufacturer f-tronic is generally not very helpful. I have not received any response to an inquiry on this issue. Their documentation and product datasheets are of little help.
Thanks in advance and greetings to the admin (BB codes).
You buy a 240€ switch, but you don’t get the possibly suitable power strip you mentioned earlier to try it out?
Otherwise, I would do it like rick.
However, I would seriously consider whether it’s a good idea to put a PoE switch inside a closed multimedia box. It’s likely to get quite warm.
Otherwise, I would do it like rick.
However, I would seriously consider whether it’s a good idea to put a PoE switch inside a closed multimedia box. It’s likely to get quite warm.
guckuck2 schrieb:
You buy a 240€ switch, but you don’t get the possibly suitable power strip you already mentioned yourself to try it out?
Otherwise, I would do it like rick.
Although I would seriously reconsider putting a PoE switch in such a closed multimedia box. It’s likely to get quite warm. What’s with the whataboutism?
I’m not buying “a 240€ switch” but rather a 240€ switch. And I even have a similarly expensive grammar book -.–
I also don’t need unsolicited advice on the waste heat of the switch, especially not from someone who obviously has no clue—neither about the installed door, nor the planned devices, nor the technology in general.
What I’m not going to do is buy a 40€ module plus shipping fees upfront, with significant delivery times and considerable shipping and possibly return shipping effort for a box that doesn’t even belong to me. I want to, or rather wanted to, inform myself first. (A trait that also puts me in the financial position to buy as many 240€ switches as I want.) But thanks for the suggestion.
Then I will clarify this here; maybe it will help someone in the future.
The reduction caps on the power strip are glued. I managed to remove one with considerable force. Schuko plugs can then be extended, with the ground conductor connected, and it works:
In contact with various suppliers, it became clear that there is an older version of this power strip with glued caps and a newer version with removable caps. The newer version is not reliably available. Neither the manufacturer nor my electrician is aware of this 😀
Anyway, the problem is solved, and that’s what matters.
The reduction caps on the power strip are glued. I managed to remove one with considerable force. Schuko plugs can then be extended, with the ground conductor connected, and it works:
In contact with various suppliers, it became clear that there is an older version of this power strip with glued caps and a newer version with removable caps. The newer version is not reliably available. Neither the manufacturer nor my electrician is aware of this 😀
Anyway, the problem is solved, and that’s what matters.