Dear forum,
We live in Berlin and are about to purchase a building plot in Brandenburg:
- 1200 m² (13,000 sq ft)
- Building land according to §34
- No zoning plan; according to the building authority, 1.5 stories are permitted
- Formerly forest, completely cleared
We do not plan to live there permanently but want to use the plot for weekends and holidays. Ideally, we would have liked to simply put a mobile home or holiday cabin on the land and use it. But that is apparently not allowed, or at least a building permit is always required, and energy saving regulations must be met, correct?
What we want (if it has to be a "proper" residential house):
- 80–100 m² (860–1,080 sq ft) of living space
- Preferably with open ceilings and/or a gallery
- Fireplace
- Good connection between indoor living area and garden
- €150,000 (max. €200,000) plus additional construction costs
What are your suggestions for creating affordable living space? I am reluctant to finance a prefabricated house costing around €250,000–300,000 just for weekend use.
We have already looked at:
- Thule Kubus
- Nordic Haus Igelmann
- Bien-Zenker Ambience Bungalows - 77 - V4
We live in Berlin and are about to purchase a building plot in Brandenburg:
- 1200 m² (13,000 sq ft)
- Building land according to §34
- No zoning plan; according to the building authority, 1.5 stories are permitted
- Formerly forest, completely cleared
We do not plan to live there permanently but want to use the plot for weekends and holidays. Ideally, we would have liked to simply put a mobile home or holiday cabin on the land and use it. But that is apparently not allowed, or at least a building permit is always required, and energy saving regulations must be met, correct?
What we want (if it has to be a "proper" residential house):
- 80–100 m² (860–1,080 sq ft) of living space
- Preferably with open ceilings and/or a gallery
- Fireplace
- Good connection between indoor living area and garden
- €150,000 (max. €200,000) plus additional construction costs
What are your suggestions for creating affordable living space? I am reluctant to finance a prefabricated house costing around €250,000–300,000 just for weekend use.
We have already looked at:
- Thule Kubus
- Nordic Haus Igelmann
- Bien-Zenker Ambience Bungalows - 77 - V4
altoderneu schrieb:
What is the basis for your different assessment here?I am concerned that, in administrative practice, it will be difficult to credibly demonstrate occasional use of a house that is not located in a designated holiday residential area.https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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altoderneu15 Mar 2022 10:3511ant schrieb:
That I fear it might be difficult in administrative practice to credibly justify occasional use of a house that is not located in a designated holiday home area. Maybe it depends on the size and features?
However, regarding the barn I inspected over the weekend, the structural stability concerns me more:
Offline, I noticed cracks in the front wall, the rear wall, and one of the side walls, each extending over one to two stories in height all the way up to the roof framing in the low-quality masonry (unfinished concrete blocks).
--> This could be more expensive if I have to install a ring beam before converting it?
altoderneu schrieb:
I noticed cracks offline in the front wall, the rear wall, and one of the side walls, each extending over one to two floors, running the full height up to the roof structure in the low-cost masonry (unfinished concrete blocks). The description sounds like typical agricultural buildings, as I know them from almost every farmstead here in the pumice stone region, for which I strongly object to the term "low-cost masonry," and to which I would confidently attribute another sixty to eighty years of trouble-free service. I think city dwellers simply have too little trust in stable cracks. People even place small roadside shrines at the next field intersection, and that holds up ;-)
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altoderneu15 Mar 2022 15:1811ant schrieb:
If you put a small Marian chapel at the next but one crossroads in the field, that will stop it ;-)And what do I do there ... as a non-believing atheist ...N
Nice-Nofret15 Mar 2022 17:29.. place the popular cast-stone Buddha from the hardware store under a bush 😉