Hey everyone,
I was really lucky to get a plot of land of about 320m² (3445 sq ft) from a municipality near Augsburg at a very favorable price, where the current market value should be about three times higher.
We plan to build a house within the next three years, but we’re not sure yet how, where, or what exactly. At the moment, we lean towards a prefabricated house because it supposedly means less stress, as everything comes from a single source, and it might also be cheaper and more affordable than a solid (brick-and-mortar) house.
We’ve already had an initial consultation with a traditional solid house builder, and with my desired specifications of
- 2 full floors (excluding the roof)
- 3 bedrooms on the upper floor
- possibly with a basement that must be completely waterproof and protected against upward water pressure according to the development plan (the builder said the basement alone would cost around 60,000 to 80,000 euros)
the price is significantly over half a million euros.
I plan to schedule appointments with several prefabricated house suppliers in the Augsburg area (radius about 250km (155 miles)) in the coming months to hear what they have to offer.
In the end, I’m not asking for public recommendations for house suppliers here (maybe privately via PM), but rather I want to approach everything correctly and avoid unnecessary stress. I’m sure many future homeowners would wish for that.
It could be helpful if people shared their own mistakes here and explained how they would have done things better. That would benefit everyone planning to build in the future.
Personally, from my current research, I find the company Town & Country interesting because they build solid houses and are reportedly affordable. I might also have been influenced a bit by a Galileo documentary.
I also find the block construction method from Dennert appealing, as it looks very stable and you don’t see wood sticking out everywhere during construction.
What puts me off a little is seeing so much wood in prefabricated houses. I somehow associate that with it not being stable over many years. Is that just a prejudice?
My first questions are:
During the few days or months that the house is being built, should an external surveyor/inspector be hired to periodically check on the construction and provide feedback?
Are there any prefabricated house suppliers that deliver truly turnkey homes? Meaning you only need to bring in your furniture and belongings. Ideally, this would also include outdoor features like a terrace, paving stones, fence, etc.
I was really lucky to get a plot of land of about 320m² (3445 sq ft) from a municipality near Augsburg at a very favorable price, where the current market value should be about three times higher.
We plan to build a house within the next three years, but we’re not sure yet how, where, or what exactly. At the moment, we lean towards a prefabricated house because it supposedly means less stress, as everything comes from a single source, and it might also be cheaper and more affordable than a solid (brick-and-mortar) house.
We’ve already had an initial consultation with a traditional solid house builder, and with my desired specifications of
- 2 full floors (excluding the roof)
- 3 bedrooms on the upper floor
- possibly with a basement that must be completely waterproof and protected against upward water pressure according to the development plan (the builder said the basement alone would cost around 60,000 to 80,000 euros)
the price is significantly over half a million euros.
I plan to schedule appointments with several prefabricated house suppliers in the Augsburg area (radius about 250km (155 miles)) in the coming months to hear what they have to offer.
In the end, I’m not asking for public recommendations for house suppliers here (maybe privately via PM), but rather I want to approach everything correctly and avoid unnecessary stress. I’m sure many future homeowners would wish for that.
It could be helpful if people shared their own mistakes here and explained how they would have done things better. That would benefit everyone planning to build in the future.
Personally, from my current research, I find the company Town & Country interesting because they build solid houses and are reportedly affordable. I might also have been influenced a bit by a Galileo documentary.
I also find the block construction method from Dennert appealing, as it looks very stable and you don’t see wood sticking out everywhere during construction.
What puts me off a little is seeing so much wood in prefabricated houses. I somehow associate that with it not being stable over many years. Is that just a prejudice?
My first questions are:
During the few days or months that the house is being built, should an external surveyor/inspector be hired to periodically check on the construction and provide feedback?
Are there any prefabricated house suppliers that deliver truly turnkey homes? Meaning you only need to bring in your furniture and belongings. Ideally, this would also include outdoor features like a terrace, paving stones, fence, etc.
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P.S.: I could only find one plot of the mentioned size within the entire development plan area (House No. 28b). This obviously has to be a semi-detached house. I don’t see any requirement for that. Do you?
What I find strange is the access. Apparently, a separate path is being created to the north for this, even though the house faces the main street to the south.
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selcuk55li14 Feb 2022 08:34K a t j a schrieb:
I don’t see any obligation there. Do you?
What I find odd is the access. Apparently, a separate path is being created on the north side, even though the house faces the main road to the south. There is no requirement for a duplex. The sketch is just a possibility. It would, however, be more practical if I want to have more garden space.
There are streets A and B surrounding number 28.
At first, it was said that I have to access my garage from the north side of the house, but then it was changed so that, by applying for a permit, I can also have the garage entrance from street A. This has already been approved verbally. The building authority mentioned this on their own because the other way would not make sense.
Is this the right answer to your question about the path on the north side?
selcuk55li schrieb:
There is no requirement to build a duplex. The sketch is just an option. However, it would be more practical if I want to have more garden space.
There are streets A and B surrounding number 28.
At first, I was told I need to access my garage from the north side of the house, but then it changed that I can also apply for a permit to have the garage entrance from street A. This has already been verbally approved. The building authority told me this themselves because the other way didn’t make sense.
Access to your western neighbor’s property is from the north, as a so-called hammerhead lot. Apparently, there were concerns about traffic volume and that having the driveway on the south side could obstruct traffic. That’s unfortunate because otherwise your property could have been significantly larger. If this is still negotiable and your neighbor can and wants to allow access from the south, I would immediately approach them and try to buy the square meters in the north.
If nothing happens in that regard, the crucial question will be: where do you want your terrace? The south side has sun but also noise and traffic. According to the development plan, the garden area is apparently still planned on the south side. If you follow that, access from the north would be attractive for you as well.
Your plot is very small. Building a semi-detached house is not only sensible to actually have a terrace, but the building height will probably also trigger setback distances of over 3m (10 feet). If you want to build at least 144sqm (1,550 sq ft), you will likely need to utilize the full permitted height.
The disadvantages compared to a detached house are, of course, finding a building partner and, even more challenging, agreeing with them.
Exact plot dimensions would be helpful to explore the options.
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blubbernase14 Feb 2022 09:20Schwörerhaus currently has a delivery time of 24 months for house installation from the building permit / planning permission.... One of the longest at the moment.
Modern timber houses have not been subject to any discounts by inspectors for years, so they are solid. Old timber-framed houses are still standing as well.
Modern timber houses have not been subject to any discounts by inspectors for years, so they are solid. Old timber-framed houses are still standing as well.
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selcuk55li14 Feb 2022 09:21K a t j a schrieb:
Access to your western neighbor’s property is from the north, making it a so-called hammerhead lot. Apparently, there were concerns about traffic volume and the possibility that an entrance in the south could cause congestion. That’s unfortunate, because otherwise your plot could have been significantly larger. If this is still negotiable and your neighbor agrees or wants to allow access from the south, I would immediately approach the west neighbor and try to purchase the square meters in the north.
If nothing comes of that, the key question will be where you want to place your terrace. The south side offers sunshine but also noise and traffic. The development plan apparently still designates the garden area to the south. If you follow that, northern access would also be advantageous for you.
Your plot is very small. Building a duplex is not only sensible to actually have a terrace but also because the building height will likely trigger setback requirements of over 3m (10 feet). If you want to build at least 144 square meters (1,550 square feet), you will probably have to maximize the height allowance.
The disadvantages compared to a single-family house are, of course, finding a building partner and, even more challenging, reaching an agreement with them.
Exact plot dimensions would be helpful to explore your options. I don’t have the exact plot dimensions. Where can I obtain them? Currently, the site is still just earth, etc. The streets are yet to be constructed, so theoretically building can start only in fall 2022.
My plan is as shown in the sketch. The garage entrance would be from Street A (which is approved according to the building authority), and the house would be pushed down as far as possible so that the garden is on the opposite side, that is, to the north.
Building a duplex definitely makes sense to avoid wasting land unnecessarily. However, I still need to get the neighbor’s data. I strongly assume they think the same because, according to the plan, they have even less flexibility than I do.
Building upwards is also somewhat problematic, as only two full floors are allowed and the building can be a maximum of 8.5m (28 feet) tall. This makes the almost unaffordable basement even more important.
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selcuk55li14 Feb 2022 09:25blubbernase schrieb:
Schwörerhaus currently has a delivery time of 24 months from the building permit to the house installation... One of the longest at the moment.
Modern timber houses have not been given any deductions by experts for years now, so these buildings hold up. Old half-timbered houses are still standing as well. Is this good news for Schwörerhaus? That would mean they have lots of orders or possibly material supply issues.
I'm quite sure many signed contracts at the last minute to still qualify for government subsidies.
I didn’t fully understand the part about the experts. Are they no longer supervising prefab houses?
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