ᐅ Planning a new build with a design inspired by "Schinkel" or "Persius" style
Created on: 31 Jan 2022 13:41
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Pianist
Good day!
Are there people here who have completed a house project where they aimed to build everything exactly as it would have been done in Schinkel’s time? I mean a house that meets today’s technical and energy standards, but where every visual detail is crafted just like the old master or one of his students would have done. In the end, you get a building that is technically state-of-the-art but looks as if it has stood there for around 200 years. Of course, such a building needs to be located in a suitable place, not in a generic new housing development, so let’s leave the question of the plot aside. Naturally, I also assume that it complies with any existing textual requirements of a building permit / planning permission.
But the question is: Is this done? Is it appropriate? Or is it a “no-go”? There are of course historicist approaches realized by contemporary architectural firms, but I mean a 1:1 replica of a building that genuinely could have been built back then.
Technically, it should be no problem to implement this with skilled craftsmen specialized in renovating such buildings—for example, for the plaster façade with decorative elements or for the windows. You could also work with a shallow-pitched gable roof where photovoltaic panels could be integrated in a way that they are barely visible from below.
I would simply find such a project “cool,” but I don’t know if it might inadvertently violate some ethos or an unwritten architectural rule...
And to make one thing very clear right away: I am very glad to live in the Federal Republic of Germany in the year 2022. Just to avoid any misunderstandings...
Matthias
Are there people here who have completed a house project where they aimed to build everything exactly as it would have been done in Schinkel’s time? I mean a house that meets today’s technical and energy standards, but where every visual detail is crafted just like the old master or one of his students would have done. In the end, you get a building that is technically state-of-the-art but looks as if it has stood there for around 200 years. Of course, such a building needs to be located in a suitable place, not in a generic new housing development, so let’s leave the question of the plot aside. Naturally, I also assume that it complies with any existing textual requirements of a building permit / planning permission.
But the question is: Is this done? Is it appropriate? Or is it a “no-go”? There are of course historicist approaches realized by contemporary architectural firms, but I mean a 1:1 replica of a building that genuinely could have been built back then.
Technically, it should be no problem to implement this with skilled craftsmen specialized in renovating such buildings—for example, for the plaster façade with decorative elements or for the windows. You could also work with a shallow-pitched gable roof where photovoltaic panels could be integrated in a way that they are barely visible from below.
I would simply find such a project “cool,” but I don’t know if it might inadvertently violate some ethos or an unwritten architectural rule...
And to make one thing very clear right away: I am very glad to live in the Federal Republic of Germany in the year 2022. Just to avoid any misunderstandings...
Matthias
Georgian2019 schrieb:
So it’s better to plan and execute it yourself. It’s also much more satisfying—I did the same over 20 years ago and would do it again today. You tend to be much more involved with your own project than any paid architect ever would be. Of course, you can consult an architect for advice, and in the end, you’ll need a stamp anyway, but fundamentally, you should handle it yourself if you have a basic understanding of what to watch out for.
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Georgian20192 Feb 2022 17:17Just in case anyone is interested... I am happy to answer any questions.
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-selbst-geplant-verwirklichtes-efh.41378/
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/threads/grundriss-selbst-geplant-verwirklichtes-efh.41378/
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Georgian20192 Feb 2022 17:22Pianist schrieb:
Very nice! However, I would have added aluminum shutters with recessed panels and powder coating in the color of the front door... 🙂If anything, wooden shutters from the window manufacturer who also made the windows and the door.Sure, that would be even better—I just wanted to save you the trouble of painting later. However, I’m not entirely sure if the profiled trim around the windows (called "Faschen" in Southern Germany and Austria) might get in the way. I also added my shutters almost ten years later because it simply wasn’t that important back then. During strong storms, I do close them sometimes. Otherwise, they are purely decorative, but they really provide that crucial splash of color. They would definitely be missed if they weren’t there.
Matthias
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Georgian20192 Feb 2022 17:39Pianist schrieb:
Sure, that would be even better—I just wanted to save you from having to paint them later. However, I’m not entirely sure if the profiled window trim (known as "Faschen" in Southern Germany and Austria) would get in the way. I installed my shutters nearly ten years after the house was built because it simply wasn’t a priority back then. I do close them during strong storms, but otherwise, they’re mainly for aesthetics, providing that crucial splash of color. They would really be missed if they weren’t there.
MatthiasYes, the window trims would actually be in the way or would require a special construction. We have already considered that if the facade ever needs repainting, shutters could be added then, even if just for decoration.