ᐅ Floor plan after initial planning meeting, 140 m², one and a half stories
Created on: 6 Jan 2022 17:19
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Richooo
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 505
Slope: No
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Building window, building line, and boundary: 3 m (10 feet)
Edge development: not planned
Number of parking spaces: 2, paved only
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: clipped hip roof
Architectural style: modern, timeless
Orientation: south-east
Maximum height / limits: 4.5 m (15 feet) eaves height
Other requirements: photovoltaic panels only on one side
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: No, 1.5
Number of occupants, age: currently 2 (26-27), planned for two children
Space requirements on ground and upper floor: well, whatever 140 m² (1507 sq ft) allows. Upstairs: 2 children’s rooms, 1 bedroom, and an optional study
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Overnight guests per year: few
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4-6
Fireplace: yes
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Hello, I'm looking forward to your feedback. We had the first planning meeting today and now have the first sketches. Most of what we had planned beforehand has been implemented.
What we especially like:
the open living concept downstairs, which makes very efficient use of space.
we also like the bedroom upstairs. When both children are here, the niche can be used openly as a study or, if needed, separated by a drywall partition to create an additional full room.
What is not ideal:
The location of the bathroom downstairs is not perfect, but we couldn’t improve it without either
A) adding a hallway
B) losing space on the south side
The walls there will also be made of calcium silicate blocks to improve sound insulation somewhat. Generally, we are an open family, and visitors who don’t like it can just go upstairs.
So this works for us.
Another less ideal aspect is the location of the fireplace. It comes out of the clipped side of the roof here. But it’s okay, not a deal breaker.
I’m looking forward to your feedback!
Plot size: 505
Slope: No
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Building window, building line, and boundary: 3 m (10 feet)
Edge development: not planned
Number of parking spaces: 2, paved only
Number of floors: 1.5
Roof style: clipped hip roof
Architectural style: modern, timeless
Orientation: south-east
Maximum height / limits: 4.5 m (15 feet) eaves height
Other requirements: photovoltaic panels only on one side
Client Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type
Basement, floors: No, 1.5
Number of occupants, age: currently 2 (26-27), planned for two children
Space requirements on ground and upper floor: well, whatever 140 m² (1507 sq ft) allows. Upstairs: 2 children’s rooms, 1 bedroom, and an optional study
Office: family use or home office? Home office
Overnight guests per year: few
Open or closed layout: open
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: yes
Number of dining seats: 4-6
Fireplace: yes
________
Hello, I'm looking forward to your feedback. We had the first planning meeting today and now have the first sketches. Most of what we had planned beforehand has been implemented.
What we especially like:
the open living concept downstairs, which makes very efficient use of space.
we also like the bedroom upstairs. When both children are here, the niche can be used openly as a study or, if needed, separated by a drywall partition to create an additional full room.
What is not ideal:
The location of the bathroom downstairs is not perfect, but we couldn’t improve it without either
A) adding a hallway
B) losing space on the south side
The walls there will also be made of calcium silicate blocks to improve sound insulation somewhat. Generally, we are an open family, and visitors who don’t like it can just go upstairs.
So this works for us.
Another less ideal aspect is the location of the fireplace. It comes out of the clipped side of the roof here. But it’s okay, not a deal breaker.
I’m looking forward to your feedback!
I’m coming at this with some harsh words, but in my view, this is a complete case of poor planning.
(The orientation of the house on the plot was not taken into account.)
- 27 sqm (290 sq ft) of bedroom space that is not really usable – you don’t even have a 3 m (10 ft) wall for a wardrobe
- Then a tiny kids’ room with a sloped ceiling (even if some work still needs to be done there 😀)
- Bathroom: the hallway to the toilet becomes a real hassle
- Upstairs hallway (already mentioned)
- Washing machine right next to the couch (soundproofing wall or not…) …technical issues in general
- Everything feels too open for me: hallway/stairs/kitchen/toilet/dining… → even in the living room you don’t get any peace. Front door → stairs (you hear everything…)
- ???
What exactly is the challenge that makes it impossible to create a reasonable floor plan with normal dimensions?
Why use 45 cm (18 inch) thick walls? Use timber studs instead, and you gain about 4 sqm (43 sq ft) downstairs and 2 sqm (22 sq ft) upstairs with the same external dimensions and equivalent building envelope.
(The orientation of the house on the plot was not taken into account.)
- 27 sqm (290 sq ft) of bedroom space that is not really usable – you don’t even have a 3 m (10 ft) wall for a wardrobe
- Then a tiny kids’ room with a sloped ceiling (even if some work still needs to be done there 😀)
- Bathroom: the hallway to the toilet becomes a real hassle
- Upstairs hallway (already mentioned)
- Washing machine right next to the couch (soundproofing wall or not…) …technical issues in general
- Everything feels too open for me: hallway/stairs/kitchen/toilet/dining… → even in the living room you don’t get any peace. Front door → stairs (you hear everything…)
- ???
What exactly is the challenge that makes it impossible to create a reasonable floor plan with normal dimensions?
Why use 45 cm (18 inch) thick walls? Use timber studs instead, and you gain about 4 sqm (43 sq ft) downstairs and 2 sqm (22 sq ft) upstairs with the same external dimensions and equivalent building envelope.
Addendum: Was it intentional not to plan a second shower upstairs? Or is the idea that one person showers while another bathes in the other bathroom at the same time? I would find it annoying to have to go downstairs right after waking up and then go back upstairs to get dressed after showering... Have you tested the floor plan for everyday living?
driver55 schrieb:
What exactly is the challenge that prevents creating a reasonable floor plan with standard dimensions?The challenge is the common situation of the concept "same price with an outer wall frame identical to that of a catalog house."SoL schrieb:
Or is the idea that one person showers while another is bathing at the same time but in a different bathroom?I don’t find a deliberate separation of cleaning baths and wellness baths unreasonable at all. I have often mixed cola and lemonade, but never beer and wine (and haven’t missed it).https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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11ant schrieb:
I don’t find the intentional separation of cleansing baths and wellness baths unreasonable. I have often mixed cola and lemonade, but never beer and wine (and never missed it). Sure, it can be done.
But as it is implemented, it doesn’t convince me. I would rather have the cleansing bath close to my sleeping area and the wellness bath near the wine storage (kitchen)...
SoL schrieb:
Sure, that can be done.
But as it has been executed, it doesn’t convince me. In that case, I would rather have a utility bathroom close to my sleeping area and the wellness bathroom near the wine storage (kitchen)... I grew up like that. Bathtub upstairs and shower downstairs, and I just found that comfortable.
That’s why we divided it that way.
And as already mentioned:
the recess upstairs is large enough to set up a separate home office if the children’s room is needed eventually. But at least this way you stay flexible. And if not, a walk-in wardrobe or something similar.
The plot position was adjusted based on forum recommendations. So it really can’t be a planning error anymore.
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