ᐅ Floor plan of a 1.5-story house with a captain’s gable, covering just under 200 square meters
Created on: 18 Jul 2021 18:13
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blubbernase
hi, we have been going back and forth with the work and wanted to get your opinion
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 673 m² (7239 ft²)
Slope: 3.5% incline from one side to the other
Floor area ratio: 0.2 (Floor area ratio I: 134.6 m² (1450 ft²), Floor area ratio II: 201.9 m² (2172 ft²))
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see picture (the side lines mark the property borders)
Edge development: new residential area, detached houses
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: max 1 full story
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: captain’s house
Orientation: ridge runs northwest to southeast
Maximum heights/limits: eaves height 4.5 m (15 ft), ridge height 9 m (30 ft), reference point in development plan nearly 1 meter (3 ft) above plot level, brick facing required, dormers allowed on only 50% of the eaves length
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, stories: partial unheated basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 34 m, 33 f, 3 m, 4 f + 1 planned
Space needs on the ground floor: 1 office, 1 office/guest room, kitchen with dining area, living room, bathroom with shower, entry hall
Space needs on the upper floor: 1 bedroom, 3 children's rooms, 1 full bathroom, 1 toilet with washer/dryer
Office: 100% home office
Overnight guests per year: 1 per month, mother-in-law
Conservative or modern construction: practical?
Kitchen: kitchen with dining area, table to be inside the kitchen
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage for one car and bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: maybe later
House Design
Ground floor: floor area 107.5 m² (1156 ft²) (including stairs)
Upper floor: floor area 101.2 m² (1090 ft²) (including stairs)
Basement: approx. 70 m² (753 ft²)
Designer: designed by ourselves using Sweet Home 3D
Basically, we based the exterior dimensions on the Whiteline promotional house "Kiefernallee" from Gussek Haus and extended it about 50 cm (20 inches) longer on the left side of the gable. We have been working with Gussek Haus for a while. Initially, we had a floor plan with 4 gables and a longer house, but we discarded it due to complexity. The upper-floor layout is still based on that promotional house, but the ground floor has changed quite a bit.
What do you particularly like? When entering the house, you’re not immediately in the living room.
Price estimate according to the architect/planner: base house approx. 450,000 € (including move-in ready) + 60,000 €
Personal price limit for the house including basement: 550,000 € + additional costs and fittings
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with indoor unit
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions?
- You could give up: basically nothing 😀
- You could not give up: a few extra square meters here and there
Why did the design turn out this way?
For example: it fits well on the plot, although the terrace is quite small.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Will the long hallway annoy us despite being reasonably wide?
Development Plan/Restrictions
Plot size: 673 m² (7239 ft²)
Slope: 3.5% incline from one side to the other
Floor area ratio: 0.2 (Floor area ratio I: 134.6 m² (1450 ft²), Floor area ratio II: 201.9 m² (2172 ft²))
Building envelope, building line and boundary: see picture (the side lines mark the property borders)
Edge development: new residential area, detached houses
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of stories: max 1 full story
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style: captain’s house
Orientation: ridge runs northwest to southeast
Maximum heights/limits: eaves height 4.5 m (15 ft), ridge height 9 m (30 ft), reference point in development plan nearly 1 meter (3 ft) above plot level, brick facing required, dormers allowed on only 50% of the eaves length
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, stories: partial unheated basement, ground floor, upper floor
Number of occupants, ages: 34 m, 33 f, 3 m, 4 f + 1 planned
Space needs on the ground floor: 1 office, 1 office/guest room, kitchen with dining area, living room, bathroom with shower, entry hall
Space needs on the upper floor: 1 bedroom, 3 children's rooms, 1 full bathroom, 1 toilet with washer/dryer
Office: 100% home office
Overnight guests per year: 1 per month, mother-in-law
Conservative or modern construction: practical?
Kitchen: kitchen with dining area, table to be inside the kitchen
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: garage for one car and bicycles
Utility garden, greenhouse: maybe later
House Design
Ground floor: floor area 107.5 m² (1156 ft²) (including stairs)
Upper floor: floor area 101.2 m² (1090 ft²) (including stairs)
Basement: approx. 70 m² (753 ft²)
Designer: designed by ourselves using Sweet Home 3D
Basically, we based the exterior dimensions on the Whiteline promotional house "Kiefernallee" from Gussek Haus and extended it about 50 cm (20 inches) longer on the left side of the gable. We have been working with Gussek Haus for a while. Initially, we had a floor plan with 4 gables and a longer house, but we discarded it due to complexity. The upper-floor layout is still based on that promotional house, but the ground floor has changed quite a bit.
What do you particularly like? When entering the house, you’re not immediately in the living room.
Price estimate according to the architect/planner: base house approx. 450,000 € (including move-in ready) + 60,000 €
Personal price limit for the house including basement: 550,000 € + additional costs and fittings
Preferred heating system: air-to-water heat pump with indoor unit
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions?
- You could give up: basically nothing 😀
- You could not give up: a few extra square meters here and there
Why did the design turn out this way?
For example: it fits well on the plot, although the terrace is quite small.
What is the most important/fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Will the long hallway annoy us despite being reasonably wide?
I won’t repeat anything about the bathroom/office situation... You really have to want an 8.5 m² (90 ft²) room, of which 4 m² (43 ft²) should actually be counted as hallway space.
- You only have the room divider to place or store something throughout the living area? Only in the corner of the dining area (the table will probably be rotated 90°) could you still fit something.
- Is the TV completely free-standing in the room on the green board?
- For the dining area windows, you might want to reconsider the layout; personally, I prefer fewer larger windows rather than several small ones.
- Your kitchen has 3 dead corners, which is wasted space. If tall cabinets are planned on the left side (plan left), effective work surfaces will be limited, probably only the counter facing the dining area.
- The passage in the vestibule won’t be very spacious if a coat rack (likely planned on the left side of the door) is added there.
- The staircase dimensions could also be tight—around 3 meters (10 feet) with a landing would be preferable.
If you add everything up, you have roughly 25% transit area on the ground floor including the vestibule, the hallway in front of the room divider, part of the workspace, and the staircase.
Is the budget still fixed? Because with 190 m² (2,045 ft²) plus 100 m² (1,076 ft²) basement, 550k could already be quite tight.
- You only have the room divider to place or store something throughout the living area? Only in the corner of the dining area (the table will probably be rotated 90°) could you still fit something.
- Is the TV completely free-standing in the room on the green board?
- For the dining area windows, you might want to reconsider the layout; personally, I prefer fewer larger windows rather than several small ones.
- Your kitchen has 3 dead corners, which is wasted space. If tall cabinets are planned on the left side (plan left), effective work surfaces will be limited, probably only the counter facing the dining area.
- The passage in the vestibule won’t be very spacious if a coat rack (likely planned on the left side of the door) is added there.
- The staircase dimensions could also be tight—around 3 meters (10 feet) with a landing would be preferable.
If you add everything up, you have roughly 25% transit area on the ground floor including the vestibule, the hallway in front of the room divider, part of the workspace, and the staircase.
Is the budget still fixed? Because with 190 m² (2,045 ft²) plus 100 m² (1,076 ft²) basement, 550k could already be quite tight.
borxx schrieb:
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blubbernase17 Jan 2022 16:17Thanks for the feedback!
borxx schrieb:The exact interior setup for the area is not finalized yet. TV positioning is also not determined. We have contacted a few interior designers to discuss furniture design and other details.
- You only have the room divider to store or place something in the entire living area? Only in the corner of the dining area (the table will probably be turned 90°) could you possibly fit something else in.
- Is the TV completely freestanding in the room on the green board?
borxx schrieb:Yeah, that’s definitely debatable. We are quite happy with it as it is.
- The window arrangement in the dining area could at least be reconsidered; personally, I prefer fewer larger windows rather than several smaller panes.
borxx schrieb:The kitchen is just a placeholder for now. Once the final measurements are available, we will visit the kitchen showroom.
- Your kitchen has three dead corners which waste space, and if you put tall cabinets on the left side, you won’t have much countertop left, probably just the peninsula facing the dining area.
borxx schrieb:The stair measurements come directly from the supplier. The entrance hall has been slightly reduced but should still not feel too small. We always use the hallway at my mother-in-law’s place as a reference, which has a gross width of 170cm (67 inches), with coat racks and dressers on both sides. It has never felt cramped, and we expect to have about 220cm (87 inches).
- The passage in the entrance area won’t be very generous if you want to add a coat rack (probably on the left side of the door).
- The stair dimensions might also be tight; something around 3 meters (10 feet) with a landing would be ideal.
borxx schrieb:That’s intentional, but it’s also because common optimizations (different staircase shapes, stairs near the entrance, etc.) are not what we want. Sure: work and guests in the basement, children on the upper floor, parents in the attic, giving up one or two things, and suddenly the house is 40 m² (430 ft²) smaller and $100,000 less expensive. But then it’s no longer what we want. If we wanted to move into any house, we’d just rent—it’s cheaper.
Adding it all up, you have roughly 25% circulation area on the ground floor with the entrance hall, the hallway in front of the room divider, part of the office, and the stairs.
borxx schrieb:The budget is all good.
Is the budget still fixed? Because $550k could become tight for 190 m² (2,045 ft²) plus 100 m² (1,076 ft²) basement.
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blubbernase18 Feb 2022 01:09These are the latest plans (still without the maypole), which are currently undergoing the technical review. After that, the building notification (building permit / planning permission) will follow. So if we want to make any changes, this is slowly the last chance.
Basement:
Ground Floor:
At the corner office/toilet, we haven’t found any better solution that feels right. Whether a beam in the open living area will be sufficient still needs to be determined.
Ground Floor furnished – we are currently reconsidering whether to install a large picture window in the living room after all:
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The height of the parapet at the guest toilet is still being checked during the technical review to see whether it really needs to be that high.
Basement:
Ground Floor:
At the corner office/toilet, we haven’t found any better solution that feels right. Whether a beam in the open living area will be sufficient still needs to be determined.
Ground Floor furnished – we are currently reconsidering whether to install a large picture window in the living room after all:
Section
The height of the parapet at the guest toilet is still being checked during the technical review to see whether it really needs to be that high.
Oh dear, the guest bathroom is really an eyesore. Why is the solution from #78 not approved? This separation on the building side from the hallway to the living room – if cabinets are going to be placed there anyway, you might as well put up a wall. First, it is probably structurally simpler, and second, it creates a calm atmosphere in the house. The appearance hardly changes.
The bathroom above the living area is also not very practical. Where is the wastewater supposed to go?
The bathroom above the living area is also not very practical. Where is the wastewater supposed to go?
K a t j a schrieb:
Wow, the guest toilet is really hard on the eyes. Why isn’t the solution from #78 approved? This partition wall from the hallway to the living room—if there are going to be cabinets there anyway, you might as well build the wall. First, it’s probably structurally simpler, and second, it brings calmness to the house. The appearance hardly changes.
The bathroom above the living area isn’t very practical either. Where is the wastewater supposed to go? Even though I also find the floor plan... unusual: The bathroom is above the hallway and can be accessed via the guest toilet. The upper floor is mirrored, if I’m interpreting the stairs correctly.
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