ᐅ Single-Family Home Floor Plan for Two – Feedback Welcome

Created on: 11 Dec 2021 13:04
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Ostseefan12
Hello everyone, I have been following this forum for some time as we are planning to build a house. There are two of us, and we want to build a captain’s house. We would appreciate any suggestions and feedback.

Regarding the questionnaire:

Zoning Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 705 m² (8506 sq ft)
Slope: no
Floor area ratio: 0.35
Floor space index: none
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: see attachment, plot no. 18
Edge development: no
Number of parking spaces: 1
Number of floors: 1
Roof shape: free choice
Architectural style: traditional
Orientation: EAST-WEST
Maximum heights / limits Eaves height 9 m (30 ft)
Additional requirements: none

Client Requirements
Building type: captain’s house with a gable roof at 45°
No basement, ground floor, upper floor, converted attic
Number of residents, age: 2, approx. 50 years old
Space requirements: ground floor and upper floor as per floor plan
No office or dedicated workspaces
Regular overnight guests per year: 2 persons
Conservative construction style
Open kitchen with kitchen island desired
Number of dining seats: 6 to 8
Fireplace: yes
Music / stereo wall: no
Balcony or roof terrace: no
Garage or carport: rather no
Utility garden or greenhouse: no
Other wishes / special features / daily routine, including reasons why certain things are or are not wanted

House Design
Designer: own modifications based on various designs by building companies
What do you like most? Why? Fits our lifestyle, home cinema possible, therefore no TV in the living room
What do you not like? Why? I am quite uncertain about the bathrooms.
Estimated price according to architect/planner: 600k
Personal budget limit for the house, including fittings: 750k
Preferred heating system: air heat pump with underfloor heating

If you have to forego anything, which details/expansions
- can you do without:
- can you not do without: actually nothing

Why did the design turn out the way it is now? For example:
A mix of many examples from various magazines…
What do you think makes it particularly good or bad? We have accommodated all the rooms we need and probably have enough space

What is the most important fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Will the floor plan work as it is? Are there suggestions for improvement?

Site plan: pink rectangle (no. 17–22) with blue outline, green-yellow surroundings.


House floor plan with kitchen, dining/living, guest, pantry, cloakroom, utility room; car on the right.


Floor plan of a house with workrooms, sleeping area, dressing room, home cinema, and dormer.
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hampshire
15 Dec 2021 09:33
Hausbau 55 schrieb:

Almost everyone will defend "their" floor plan compared to other housing types
Any reasonably intelligent person will recognize that "their" floor plan is not suitable for everyone else’s needs and preferences, and will have no problem considering requirements different from their own life situation.
Hausbau 55 schrieb:

who likes to admit that they would have preferred something different, especially in old age?
Most elderly people I know are more or less satisfied with what they have done and accept the consequences. They regret what they didn’t do, where they hesitated, where they were too cautious. My conclusion: Better to take action and sometimes be wrong afterward than to constantly doubt, hesitate, and end up only doing things halfway.
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Hausbau 55
15 Dec 2021 11:50
hampshire schrieb:

Anyone with even a basic understanding will realize that their own floor plan is not suitable for everyone else’s needs and preferences, and they should have no problem imagining requirements different from their own life situation.

Most elderly people I know are more or less satisfied with what they have done and accept the consequences. They regret what they didn’t do, where they hesitated, where they were too cautious. My conclusion is: it’s better to take action and sometimes be wrong than to constantly doubt, hesitate, and end up doing things only halfway.

This topic is about new houses for people over 50. It’s important (actually, it should be mandatory) to take a look ahead to the life phases of those over 60, 70, and beyond.
I have three older sisters, each with partners, and all of them have houses with stairs. Living on one level, along with other senior-friendly features (our level-access shower measures 1.10 m x 1.2 m (3 ft 7 in x 3 ft 11 in)) were either not considered or inadequately addressed back then. Much of it was also impossible due to plot size and other factors. All six of them now say that if they were to build new today, it would be in a size and layout similar to our bungalow. Fortunately, many seniors who build anew nowadays choose to build bungalows.
By the way, my father moved into a care home at 84 because living on one level was not possible in his rented house. Perhaps he could have stayed longer in his familiar surroundings.
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driver55
15 Dec 2021 12:00
Today’s 80-year-olds are basically like the 60-year-olds of the past.
Gym, walking with walking poles, running, and all the other activities older people do… but at home, they can no longer manage simple obstacles like getting into bed (mattress too high) 😀 or going down the stairs to the basement…

If you build 140 square meters (1,507 square feet), you build 140 square meters, if you build 300 square meters (3,229 square feet), you build 300 square meters. Everyone as they please…

This discussion is really just about the “failed” floor plan.
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Tom1978
15 Dec 2021 15:30
driver55 schrieb:

Today’s 80-year-olds are basically what 60-year-olds used to be. Gym, walking with poles, running, and all the other activities seniors do... but then at home, they struggle to get into bed (mattress too high) 😀 or to manage the stairs to the basement…

If you build 140 square meters (1500 square feet), you build 140 square meters (1500 square feet); if you build 300 square meters (3200 square feet), you build 300 square meters (3200 square feet). Everyone as they please…

This is really just about the “unsuccessful” floor plan.

Today’s 80-year-olds may be like the 60-year-olds of the past, but often they have experienced COVID-19, which can frequently affect stamina. All the more reason to consider a bungalow :-)

But back to the floor plan :-)
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Nemesis
15 Dec 2021 15:33
First of all: either you confused me with someone else in #32 or you misquoted me—I am not building a bungalow, I have no idea what you mean by that.

And regarding:
ypg schrieb:

Why? A lot has already been said about the design, and he has responded to that. Then there was this "why 200sqm (2,153 sq ft)" and comparison discussion like "I have this," "we have that," and "my house is so great," which was neither asked for nor would I want to endure if I were the original poster.
Maybe you should take another look at your dramatic words in #16 😉

What is going on with you? Calm down. In the floor plan forum, nearly all longtime members—including you—consistently (and rightly) refuse to discuss “castles in the air.” This may not be a fantasy here, but again: the budget would be exceeded with this size, and that has to be addressed (or at least allowed to be addressed)! If essential elements must be cut to save costs, any discussion about THIS floor plan becomes pointless. That is exactly what you always say! And that’s all I was referring to.
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ypg
15 Dec 2021 16:04
Nemesis schrieb:

First of all: either you confused me in #32 or you quoted me incorrectly, I’m not building a bungalow, I have no idea what you mean.

No, I didn’t confuse you. I agreed with you.
Nemesis schrieb:

In the floor plan forum, nearly all long-time members – including you – consistently (and rightly) refuse to discuss "castles in the air." It might not be a castle in the air here, but again: the budget would be exceeded with this size, that has to be addressed (and allowed to be addressed)!

Exactly. But these are two different issues: a) the budget and floor plan topic, and b) the idea of dictating how large someone should build and how much money they should spend from some people’s perspective. I find it not only presumptuous – it is presumptuous.