ᐅ Floor plan single-family house with 2 full stories plus basement, approximately 130 m² of living space
Created on: 22 Nov 2021 10:47
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HeinzzLöwe
Hello everyone,
my wife and I are currently planning our house. We have already visited several construction companies and have now decided on one. The company is a manufacturer of prefabricated solid construction. The project will take place in the suburban area of Stuttgart.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 400m² (4,306 sq ft)
Sloping site
Site coverage ratio
Floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary: 2.5m (8 feet) distance to neighbors
Edge development: only for garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors:
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum heights / limits
Additional specifications: Construction allowed according to §34
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 floors + basement
Number of occupants, ages: currently 2 people, 31 and 26 years old; first child on the way and definitely planning another. Space for a third child should still be possible.
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: On the ground floor space for kitchen, living, dining, guest toilet; on the upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, large bathroom; in the basement a room for office/guest room/or third child’s room if needed
Office: family use or home office? No home office
Number of overnight guests per year:
Open or closed layout: on the ground floor, living room, dining room, and kitchen are open, but the hallway has a door
Conservative or modern construction style
Open kitchen, kitchen island: currently a kitchen island in the floor plan, but it takes too much space and requires reconsideration to design the kitchen as a U-shape
Number of dining seats: 6 with extension option
Fireplace: not planned
Music / stereo wall
Balcony, roof terrace: not planned
Garage, carport: in the plan but depends on cost
Kitchen garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are preferred or not
House Design
Planner: the plan is from the construction company’s planner
-Architect
-Do-it-Yourself
What do you like most? Why? Overall, we like the planning well
What do you dislike? Why?
The kitchen uses too much space with the island and offers too little workspace; sliding door in the kitchen should be replaced by a regular window to place a kitchen cabinet below it.
In the living room, we are uncertain about the full-height window. The sofa will be placed on the wall next to the staircase, at least initially, as the sofa is currently an inverted L-shape. We consider changing the window to two narrow full-height windows positioned further apart.
On the upper floor, we would appreciate suggestions for the bathroom, as it currently doesn’t feel quite right.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 460,000€ (without additional construction costs and without excavation disposal). Basement finishing will be done by ourselves.
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 550,000 to 600,000€
Preferred heating technology: the offer includes an air-to-water heat pump and photovoltaic system with battery storage.
If you have to give up something, which details or expansions
-can you live without: kitchen island, although the floor plan is already reduced to the essentials
-can you absolutely not live without: For us it is more about arranging the rooms cleverly and getting ideas about what makes sense.
Why did the design end up like it is now? For example
Standard design from the planner? Revised standard design
Which wishes were implemented by the architect?
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? Overall we are very satisfied but look forward to suggestions of what might not be clever and what could be improved.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Can the space be used better or differently organized? Initially, living room and kitchen were swapped, which gave us a too small kitchen. Kitchen and dining room are the most important rooms for us.
Can the bathroom on the upper floor also be arranged differently?
Thank you in advance for your suggestions. If you have any questions or if we have forgotten something, please let us know.
my wife and I are currently planning our house. We have already visited several construction companies and have now decided on one. The company is a manufacturer of prefabricated solid construction. The project will take place in the suburban area of Stuttgart.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 400m² (4,306 sq ft)
Sloping site
Site coverage ratio
Floor area ratio
Building window, building line, and boundary: 2.5m (8 feet) distance to neighbors
Edge development: only for garage
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors:
Roof type: gable roof
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum heights / limits
Additional specifications: Construction allowed according to §34
Homeowners’ Requirements
Architectural style, roof type, building type: gable roof
Basement, floors: 2 floors + basement
Number of occupants, ages: currently 2 people, 31 and 26 years old; first child on the way and definitely planning another. Space for a third child should still be possible.
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: On the ground floor space for kitchen, living, dining, guest toilet; on the upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, large bathroom; in the basement a room for office/guest room/or third child’s room if needed
Office: family use or home office? No home office
Number of overnight guests per year:
Open or closed layout: on the ground floor, living room, dining room, and kitchen are open, but the hallway has a door
Conservative or modern construction style
Open kitchen, kitchen island: currently a kitchen island in the floor plan, but it takes too much space and requires reconsideration to design the kitchen as a U-shape
Number of dining seats: 6 with extension option
Fireplace: not planned
Music / stereo wall
Balcony, roof terrace: not planned
Garage, carport: in the plan but depends on cost
Kitchen garden, greenhouse
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are preferred or not
House Design
Planner: the plan is from the construction company’s planner
-Do-it-Yourself
What do you like most? Why? Overall, we like the planning well
What do you dislike? Why?
The kitchen uses too much space with the island and offers too little workspace; sliding door in the kitchen should be replaced by a regular window to place a kitchen cabinet below it.
In the living room, we are uncertain about the full-height window. The sofa will be placed on the wall next to the staircase, at least initially, as the sofa is currently an inverted L-shape. We consider changing the window to two narrow full-height windows positioned further apart.
On the upper floor, we would appreciate suggestions for the bathroom, as it currently doesn’t feel quite right.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: 460,000€ (without additional construction costs and without excavation disposal). Basement finishing will be done by ourselves.
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings: 550,000 to 600,000€
Preferred heating technology: the offer includes an air-to-water heat pump and photovoltaic system with battery storage.
If you have to give up something, which details or expansions
-can you live without: kitchen island, although the floor plan is already reduced to the essentials
-can you absolutely not live without: For us it is more about arranging the rooms cleverly and getting ideas about what makes sense.
Why did the design end up like it is now? For example
Standard design from the planner? Revised standard design
A mix of many examples from various magazines...
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion? Overall we are very satisfied but look forward to suggestions of what might not be clever and what could be improved.
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Can the space be used better or differently organized? Initially, living room and kitchen were swapped, which gave us a too small kitchen. Kitchen and dining room are the most important rooms for us.
Can the bathroom on the upper floor also be arranged differently?
Thank you in advance for your suggestions. If you have any questions or if we have forgotten something, please let us know.
pagoni2020 schrieb:
so that I don’t hear the noise of the vacuum cleaner as muchA central vacuum system helps with that. @TE: Even though many people nowadays prefer robotic vacuums exclusively, you will always need a “regular” vacuum cleaner as well. I would definitely include one in your plans.
Hangman schrieb:
Funny, that was also my first thought: to position the house along the right property boundaryThat’s exactly what I meant 🙂 Then you just have to consider the light well: either move the house slightly or relocate the light well to the south.H
HeinzzLöwe23 Nov 2021 09:54Good morning everyone,
there have been so many replies here, we really like that.
According to our calculations, the area is about 130m² (1,400 sq ft) plus the basement. Would that still be too optimistic? We’ve received a cost estimate of €460,000 from the company, but of course, there will be additional expenses everywhere, so we have to be disciplined. The L-shape idea basically sounds good, but my wife values having a pantry. But thanks for the suggestion.
Yes, we know the living room is narrow. As I said, in a previous floor plan the kitchen was where the living room is now, and that was too small for the kitchen. We are still not entirely sure what the optimum layout is.
Basically, we see it the same way regarding light. Next door is my wife’s parents’ house and behind that is the street.
We really like the suggestion about the bathroom.
there have been so many replies here, we really like that.
Tom1978 schrieb:
Is that 160m² (1,722 sq ft) plus the basement? For the Stuttgart suburbs, I’ve learned that building costs differ compared to, for example, Brandenburg. That’s why you should calculate €3,000 * 160 = €480,000 plus the basement, which easily adds another €100,000. So we’re talking about roughly €600,000 plus additional construction costs. But that wasn’t the question.
What I wouldn’t personally like is if people first had to walk through the kitchen to get to the living room. The kitchen always has to be spotless because guests will always pass through there first.
Also, I would skip the pantry and instead build the kitchen in an L-shape with what I assume is the desired island.
Otherwise, I find the living room quite narrow at 3.77m (12.4 ft).
According to our calculations, the area is about 130m² (1,400 sq ft) plus the basement. Would that still be too optimistic? We’ve received a cost estimate of €460,000 from the company, but of course, there will be additional expenses everywhere, so we have to be disciplined. The L-shape idea basically sounds good, but my wife values having a pantry. But thanks for the suggestion.
Yes, we know the living room is narrow. As I said, in a previous floor plan the kitchen was where the living room is now, and that was too small for the kitchen. We are still not entirely sure what the optimum layout is.
hampshire schrieb:
This is a very conservative, unobtrusive design that reflects current trends, is practical and well thought out. If that suits you, that’s great.
It’s a matter of taste. It also depends on what you can see outside the window. I like as much connection as possible between inside and outside and prefer plenty of natural light; that’s why I generally like floor-to-ceiling windows.
As @Tom1978 says: skip the pantry and build an L-shape kitchen.
I wouldn’t like the toilet right next to the bathtub. Don’t worry about the symmetrical exterior windows. Then you can place a T-shaped bathroom with a separate toilet and shower where the bathtub is now, and move the bathtub where the shower is at the moment.
I agree with [USER=57267]@Tom1978 that this seems optimistic.
Despite the square floor plan, I see very little wasted space except for the typical “waste” between the cooking and dining areas. The entrance area also has some potential. A generous entrance is of course a nice feature; it’s a matter of taste.
I don’t recognize this unless children share a room or the parents move upstairs or someone has to stay in the basement...
As a guest, I feel very comfortable in a lively house with relaxed hosts. Whether there is stuff around in the kitchen or not really doesn’t bother me. As a host, I can welcome guests calmly even if it’s not spotless. Those who are also relaxed won’t mind the kitchen’s central location. (In our house, the entrance is combined with the laundry room – that sometimes causes surprises but no one has complained yet...)
Basically, we see it the same way regarding light. Next door is my wife’s parents’ house and behind that is the street.
We really like the suggestion about the bathroom.
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HeinzzLöwe23 Nov 2021 10:0411ant schrieb:
It’s fine to mention this one here. I suspect it’s a company with its own construction system (?).
What are those 9 cm (3.5 inches) and 7 cm (2.75 inches) layers below the ceilings: installation levels?
Also, the reasons behind your choice of this provider or construction system might be interesting for other readers. Hello,
the company is Hauser Massivbau from Vöhringen. I’m not entirely sure about those layers, I will have to check. We chose them because we really like their offer in terms of price/performance ratio, and we have a very friendly consultant there. Additionally, we have heard a lot of good things about the company through acquaintances.
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HeinzzLöwe23 Nov 2021 10:10ypg schrieb:
Let’s assume that HeinzLöwe doesn’t leave plates with food scraps around, but disposes of them properly on the property… then the design is a very solid one.
Personally, there are a few things I don’t like, but they are not worth mentioning because it will work. I have checked the basement height and windows for a living space, the location of the light wells, ensuring they don’t conflict with the terrace.
The lighting situation inside the house, particularly on the west side, could be improved by rotating the entire house slightly counterclockwise. This would give you a bit more garden space on the west side. Also, the house would gain a bit more character, which is somewhat lacking.
I would also make the pantry a bit more straightforward – it feels out of place in an otherwise simple design.
I find the upper floor a bit tight in terms of the corridor and bedroom closet space. But that’s the compromise of the overall design.
The shower partition wall could even be omitted. Hello,
Are you referring to the lighting situation on the ground floor only? I’m attaching a picture of the entire plot. My wife is receiving the building plot from her parents. Currently, it’s their garden. According to our current house layout, there will still be a 10m (33 feet) garden in front on the left side, between her parents’ house and ours, which we can also use communally.
Yes, my wife also agrees that closet space in the bedroom is limited, but of course, you can’t have everything 😀 We really liked the suggestion of the Hampshire-style shower with the T partition and will take a closer look at that.
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HeinzzLöwe23 Nov 2021 10:18pagoni2020 schrieb:
The staircase somehow feels out of place to me. A spacious entrance is nice, but here it feels rather cramped, and I miss the matching spaciousness in the living area. In that regard, I would allocate more of the floor area from the entrance to the living space.
Maybe you should also reconsider the often-discussed square floor plan in terms of your needs and desires.
I don’t really like the proportions between the entrance, kitchen, and living areas. So far, the layout feels somewhat uninspired rather than tailored to your wishes (which I don’t know in detail), but there is definitely much more potential.
On the ground floor, I would add a small shower to the guest bathroom. Especially when the children get older, this will be appreciated (e.g., using part of the entrance area for this). The bathroom on the upper floor could give up about 2sqm (22 sq ft) and still be a nice bathroom. Size alone isn’t really valuable there either. The current design with the door swinging into the shower area is not ideal, nor is the position of the toilet.
The children's rooms are quite large, but compared to other room sizes, reducing each by about 2sqm (22 sq ft) could free up storage space or an area for a dressing room/closet.
In the basement, you have three larger rooms, which is a luxury missing upstairs. Maybe some bedrooms could be moved there to create more open space on the ground floor.
If I were you, I would also try a more rectangular floor plan; you can find thousands online.
Windows? I’m sitting here in our partially finished “glass box,” looking outside through large windows into the greenery — we love it.
Now, isn’t it sometimes a case of the chicken and the egg? 😀. But it’s actually true that you should focus much more on your own habits and wishes; there’s no right or wrong here. I always enjoy seeing different lifestyles and habits, even if they sometimes sound funny to me. The diversity is what makes it great, which is why I keep encouraging people to find their own way, rather than conform too much to the more uniform thinking and living of other homebuilders. For example, from the start, we planned open living and like large windows; friends come over without appointments.
A visit that feels hectic to me immediately takes away my enjoyment — I would simply go to bed and let the guests carry on alone. So visits like that never stress me out. We will look into rectangular floor plans. We also thought about the shower on the ground floor, but we are concerned it might feel very cramped.
I don’t quite understand the suggestion to reduce a few square meters from each room upstairs to gain storage space, as you said, the basement offers plenty of room. Of course, my wife would also like more closet space in the bedrooms. It was important to us that the kids’ rooms don’t become too small. It’s also quite difficult for us to judge what is sufficient. Once the children are older or if there are more than two kids, one of them will have to move to the basement.
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