ᐅ Old Electrical Installation – Is It Possible to Determine Its Age?

Created on: 15 Nov 2021 17:00
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ruediger42
Hello everyone,

I have a (admittedly poor) photo of the fuse box in an older house that we might renovate (for my parents).
My question:
Is it possible to tell at a glance whether the electrical installation is relatively up to date or if nothing has been done here for the last 50 years?

Thank you very much and best regards
rueiger42

Verteilerschalttafel mit Zählern und Sicherungen in einem Elektroverteiler


Reihe weißer Sicherungsautomaten in einem Verteilerkasten mit schwarzen Hebeln.
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Joedreck
16 Nov 2021 08:30
Well, so far it looks okay. I’ll have an electrician take a quick look. They will open it briefly and inspect it.
If everything has three conductors, expansion is often possible.
And yes, 50 years ago, the installation shown would have been considered high-end.
HausiKlausi20 Nov 2021 01:20
guckuck2 schrieb:

It is quite certain that at least a three-core cable is connected behind the box.
You don’t usually use a 16A circuit breaker for any old wiring.

With all due respect, that’s nonsense. We also have a box with RCDs here, and about two meters further along there are 50-year-old aluminum cables connected, where the protective conductor and the neutral conductor are combined(!) A big sign of negligence. But as long as the lights were working, it didn’t matter during the renovation (mid-90s).
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guckuck2
20 Nov 2021 06:44
HausiKlausi schrieb:

With all due respect, that’s nonsense. We also have a panel here with RCDs, and about two meters (6.5 feet) away, there are 50-year-old aluminum cables connected, where the protective earth and neutral conductors are combined(!). That’s extreme negligence. But as long as the lights worked, it didn’t matter during the renovation (mid-1990s).

Then it seems your entire installation is mostly nonsense ;-)
HausiKlausi20 Nov 2021 11:41
Absolutely agree. I have seen things inside junction boxes that can safely be described as time bombs. I just wanted to point out again that a residual current device (RCD) does not mean there is a “pretty much certain” three-wire installation behind it.
guckuck2 schrieb:

Then it’s probably your installation that is complete nonsense ;-)
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konibar
20 Nov 2021 17:43
You need to check the connected and installed cables!

If there are still stranded conductors inside, they are likely from the 1950s or earlier.
Since around 1968 (if I recall correctly), the protective conductor (plastic insulation) has been marked green-yellow.

From that time on, the DIN rails on which components (RCCBs, circuit breakers, relays, timers, etc.) are mounted also date back and are still compatible with modern designs.
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hampshire
20 Nov 2021 21:17
ruediger42 schrieb:

I just don’t know whether I should basically redo all the electrical work as a preventive measure or just leave it as it is.
You can relax for now – I wouldn’t completely redo the electrical system, but I would have it checked thoroughly and update or modernize parts if necessary.