Hello,
even though this question has been asked many times before, I would like to ask it once more. I am planning to build a single-family house with approximately 120 - 130 sqm (1,290 - 1,400 sq ft) of living space plus a storage room and garage. From what I have read in this forum, a rough estimate could be calculated as follows:
Now I am my own spoiler because the budget is only 210,000 euros. So, at this point, I should give up the building project, but I cannot understand that it is not possible to build a house for 210,000 euros. I would describe my requirements as simple in terms of fittings but high when it comes to quality. I don’t need any luxury, but I can’t stand flimsy windows/doors or creaky stairs. I don’t want much, but what I have should be solid. If I take this on, I want to be quite sure that this budget limit will not be significantly exceeded.
Specifically, I would say the following: simple floor plan – terrace – no slope – shutters (roller shutters) – no curtains inside, instead blinds – no frills – all tiled except for bedrooms and children’s rooms – bathroom with toilet – separate guest toilet – no underfloor heating – no electric shutters/blinds/skylights – no automatic ventilation system – walls and ceilings painted white with textured wallpaper. As the only luxuries, I would like a wood-burning stove in the living room and a network connection in every room. Everything kept simple but of solid/durable quality. For DIY work, I would do the painting (wallpapering/painting) and outdoor areas myself. I would also install the flooring in the rooms that are not tiled (bedrooms/children’s rooms) as well as handle the cleaning up. Preferably built with a solid construction method.
Now the big question: Is this completely unrealistic? Or how should one go about building a simple but solid house for 210,000 euros?
Thanks and regards
even though this question has been asked many times before, I would like to ask it once more. I am planning to build a single-family house with approximately 120 - 130 sqm (1,290 - 1,400 sq ft) of living space plus a storage room and garage. From what I have read in this forum, a rough estimate could be calculated as follows:
| 130 sqm x 1,500 |
| Additional construction costs |
| Garage |
| Outdoor areas |
| Kitchen |
| Painting/flooring |
| Miscellaneous |
| Total |
Now I am my own spoiler because the budget is only 210,000 euros. So, at this point, I should give up the building project, but I cannot understand that it is not possible to build a house for 210,000 euros. I would describe my requirements as simple in terms of fittings but high when it comes to quality. I don’t need any luxury, but I can’t stand flimsy windows/doors or creaky stairs. I don’t want much, but what I have should be solid. If I take this on, I want to be quite sure that this budget limit will not be significantly exceeded.
Specifically, I would say the following: simple floor plan – terrace – no slope – shutters (roller shutters) – no curtains inside, instead blinds – no frills – all tiled except for bedrooms and children’s rooms – bathroom with toilet – separate guest toilet – no underfloor heating – no electric shutters/blinds/skylights – no automatic ventilation system – walls and ceilings painted white with textured wallpaper. As the only luxuries, I would like a wood-burning stove in the living room and a network connection in every room. Everything kept simple but of solid/durable quality. For DIY work, I would do the painting (wallpapering/painting) and outdoor areas myself. I would also install the flooring in the rooms that are not tiled (bedrooms/children’s rooms) as well as handle the cleaning up. Preferably built with a solid construction method.
Now the big question: Is this completely unrealistic? Or how should one go about building a simple but solid house for 210,000 euros?
Thanks and regards
I can only agree, that will be difficult.
Apart from that, your very solid and economical taste really packs a punch: roller shutters, blinds, everything tiled, fireplace – wow! That easily adds up to about 30,000 euros (approx. 32,000 dollars) for this "not a luxury house." And everything is supposed to be solid and of good quality. Of course, solid, simple, and good quality means a starting price of around 300,000 euros (approx. 320,000 dollars). Only after that do the extras begin, like gold-plated faucets and oak staircases.
I could imagine that it might be possible with a shell house if you spend all day on the construction site and coordinate all trades yourself. Even then, it will be tight. What about the plot? Is it fully serviced and paid for?
Apart from that, your very solid and economical taste really packs a punch: roller shutters, blinds, everything tiled, fireplace – wow! That easily adds up to about 30,000 euros (approx. 32,000 dollars) for this "not a luxury house." And everything is supposed to be solid and of good quality. Of course, solid, simple, and good quality means a starting price of around 300,000 euros (approx. 320,000 dollars). Only after that do the extras begin, like gold-plated faucets and oak staircases.
I could imagine that it might be possible with a shell house if you spend all day on the construction site and coordinate all trades yourself. Even then, it will be tight. What about the plot? Is it fully serviced and paid for?
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Bauexperte18 Nov 2013 14:42Hello,
Here is one of our smaller designs as an example for North Rhine-Westphalia:
Single-family house, 8.53 x 8.66 m (approx. 113 sqm (1,216 sq ft) living area), KfW 70, roof pitch 42°, knee wall 1.00 m (3 ft 3 in): EUR 158,400
Typical additional building costs: EUR 35,000–40,000
Painting work in labor only: EUR 10,000
Floor coverings in labor only: EUR 10,000
Outdoor facilities in labor only: EUR 10,000
Detached garage 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft): EUR 5,500
Reserve fund for extras: EUR 10,000
Total house investment: EUR 243,900
You can initially skip the outdoor facilities, garage, and extras; a new kitchen can also be added later. Still, you would need to cover EUR 223,900 if the project is to be prepared properly. Of course, it is always possible to do it cheaper... but mostly this dream will catch up with you no later than after signing the contract 😉
A shell house (structure-only) is not a solution either; the materials for the interior finishing cost money, labor costs apply as well, and you need two certified professionals for the acceptance of plumbing and electrical work. Furthermore, the whole process should be professionally supervised, which ultimately leads you to the same total costs.
Regards, Bauexperte
Mutz schrieb:Not at all, and in my opinion especially not in Baden-Württemberg. Even with a smaller design, you have to add costs ...
Now to the big question. Can you completely forget about it? Or how would you have to approach it to build a simple but solid house for EUR 210,000?
Here is one of our smaller designs as an example for North Rhine-Westphalia:
Single-family house, 8.53 x 8.66 m (approx. 113 sqm (1,216 sq ft) living area), KfW 70, roof pitch 42°, knee wall 1.00 m (3 ft 3 in): EUR 158,400
Typical additional building costs: EUR 35,000–40,000
Painting work in labor only: EUR 10,000
Floor coverings in labor only: EUR 10,000
Outdoor facilities in labor only: EUR 10,000
Detached garage 3 x 6 m (10 x 20 ft): EUR 5,500
Reserve fund for extras: EUR 10,000
Total house investment: EUR 243,900
You can initially skip the outdoor facilities, garage, and extras; a new kitchen can also be added later. Still, you would need to cover EUR 223,900 if the project is to be prepared properly. Of course, it is always possible to do it cheaper... but mostly this dream will catch up with you no later than after signing the contract 😉
A shell house (structure-only) is not a solution either; the materials for the interior finishing cost money, labor costs apply as well, and you need two certified professionals for the acceptance of plumbing and electrical work. Furthermore, the whole process should be professionally supervised, which ultimately leads you to the same total costs.
Regards, Bauexperte
lastdrop schrieb:
If the budget is tight, I would prefer to play it safe and look for an existing property. With that, you know what you are paying for.
The older the property, the more important it is to have expert advice, otherwise it can turn out expensive again... First, you have to find something! For us, there were only old clay houses at hugely inflated prices. So the decision for a new build was quick, since it was better and cheaper.
So $300,000 for a simple rectangular house without any extras must be a joke... You can get something like that for $100,000 plus construction-related additional costs. That would be about 90sqm (970 sqft) without KfW 70 certification, but it provides a basic starting point. Based on that basic model, you can then upgrade to larger versions (more square meters) and choose special features, similar to how you would with a car.
Any company that doesn’t offer anything under $150,000 is immediately off my shortlist! Who would pay €40,000 for a small car?
Any company that doesn’t offer anything under $150,000 is immediately off my shortlist! Who would pay €40,000 for a small car?
Nutshell schrieb:
A company that generally doesn’t take on projects under 150,000 immediately falls out of my shortlist! And for that, you get a nicely calculated KfW 55 house like yours?
https://www.hausbau-forum.de/Dämmung-isolation/8928-efh-u-werte-gut-oder-eher-nicht.html#post53070
The values for the windows sound to me more like double glazing.
To me, it sounds like upgrading a Lada with air conditioning, a Bose system, electrically adjustable seats, central locking, and other electronic gimmicks just to make it marketable. Everyone has their own preference.
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