ᐅ Our floor plan of 120 sqm on a 469 sqm plot of land

Then everyone, please share your floor plans!

erfurter110287 schrieb:
There is a storage room available!!!

Read carefully: a storage room under the stairs for beverage crates, tools, cleaning supplies, brooms and vacuum cleaner, stroller, and the suggestions from users here: paint cans, shoes, sports equipment... Flower pots can withstand frost, they will be stored in the garden shed.
And what about the yellow bag, waste paper, and glass recycling? Or is there no waste separation?

ypg schrieb:

What about the yellow bag, waste paper, and glass recycling? Or is there no waste separation?

There is still space next to the drying rack in the utility room (also called the living room).

How does my floor plan with a basement help you? Just try searching online for floor plans.

And no matter how many exclamation marks you add after your storage room—15! or more—it won’t make it any bigger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you currently renting? Do you have a basement room there? Maybe a laundry room? A bike storage area? Perhaps the heating and electrical distribution are in a common room? Whatever your answer is, now all of that has to fit into your 120m² (1,292 sq ft)!

erfurter110287 schrieb:
then everyone, show your floor plans!

My floor plan may no longer matter to you, as we built with a completely different building layout for two people.
Still, here’s an insight: Ground floor: about 8sqm (86 sq ft) for the technical/utility room, where the technical equipment is placed in a niche, and we have 3 meters (10 feet) of wall space for a second refrigerator and additional storage for utility items like kitchen appliances and tools. Drinks and trash fit under the controlled residential ventilation system.
There is also space for a small table when repotting plants or doing DIY projects.
Our old cabinet is used in the guest room for winter coats. Under the staircase (like in your case) is a storage area exclusively for coats and shoes.
Upper floor: a walk-in closet of 6sqm (65 sq ft) for all clothes, a utility room of 4sqm (43 sq ft) for the washing machine and dryer (the electricity consumption of the new dryer is actually balanced by the reduced ironing, which mostly disappears), and a storage niche for decorations, crafts, and boxes with photo albums, etc. The floor space doubles as storage for garden cushions and photography equipment.
Garage storage room: remaining tools, lawnmower, garden equipment, trash bins, bicycles, and frost-sensitive plants in winter. That space is also fully used.

I don’t quite understand this stubborn phase you’re in, which prevents you from acknowledging this perspective, and then your justification that others apparently don’t plan for more space either (see your floor plan requirements).
Improvement in a standard house setup on your side is straightforward: simply reduce the living room size, maybe rearrange the rooms so that more space is allocated towards the utility room/freezer area. And if you don’t want to “believe” us (maybe we have just conspired and picked you as a target to bother), you can search online around the world and find more information about space requirements, etc. Along the way, you’ll also learn about the consequences of drying laundry inside living spaces, which may still work in old buildings, but in new builds causes drafts and mold problems.

One more tip: never trust friends or relatives about how they like your design. They will always say it’s great anyway.

ypg schrieb:

I don’t quite understand these stubborn phases you’re going through, which show no willingness to acknowledge reason, and then your justification that others probably also don’t plan for more space (see your layout requirements).

I followed this thread last night and today shaking my head, thinking there’s no point in writing anything here.
I believe the time has come to move on.
You want to convince Erfurter to have his floor plan revised. You have good arguments for that, which I also agree with. You want to help him with these points. But he either refuses to hear or understand them, or truly believes that everything is fine as it is.

There’s no point in starting a quarrel here. It will be his house. He has to live in it, and in the worst case, regret it afterwards. So let’s draw a line under this issue.

ypg schrieb:

And one more tip: never trust friends or relatives when they tell you what they think about your design. They usually say everything is great anyway.

That’s actually not entirely true. We repeatedly showed our floor plans to friends and relatives, collected their suggestions and ideas, and evaluated them for ourselves. In general, their proposals were quite sensible.
Only one party approved everything without any comments.

@Erfurter – The users here don’t mean any harm. They are pointing out potential problems and want to help you avoid possible mistakes. It is said that people build three times in their life, and every time after finishing, they find various things that could have been improved. Personally, I don’t plan to build more than once. That’s why I take these tips and suggestions seriously and try to evaluate them objectively.
My advice to you is to write down all the arguments presented here in detail. You have already been told, for example, what kind of spaces need to be accommodated (I especially found Perlemann’s last comment at 10:03 a.m. very helpful). Think this over carefully and discuss this exact list with your family and friends (this helped me). Ask them to take their time to consider it and to tell you honestly what they think.

That’s my statement on this. I’m out now.

ypg schrieb:
My floor plan might not matter to you anymore since we built a completely different house design for two people. Still, here’s some insight: Ground floor: about 8sqm (86 sq ft) for the technical/utility room, with the technical equipment tucked into a niche. We have 3 meters (10 feet) of wall space for a second refrigerator and additional storage for household items, kitchen appliances, and tools. Beverages and trash bins fit under the mechanical ventilation system with heat recovery. There’s also room for a small table for repotting plants or small DIY tasks. Our old wardrobe goes into the guest room for winter coats. Under the stairs (like in your house) there’s a storage area used exclusively for coats and shoes.

Upper floor: a walk-in closet of 6sqm (65 sq ft) for all clothing, a 4sqm (43 sq ft) utility room for the washer and dryer (by the way, the energy use of the new dryer balances out with not having to iron as much), and a storage space for decorations, craft supplies, photo albums, etc. The floor area is used for garden cushions and photography studio equipment.

Garage storage room: leftover tools, lawnmower, gardening equipment, trash bins, bicycles, and frost-sensitive plants in winter. That’s quite full as well.

I don’t quite understand your stubborn phases, which prevent you from seeing this. Then your justification is that others probably don’t plan for extra space either (see your floor plan requirements). The improvement in a typical house like yours is obvious: simply reduce the living room size, maybe rearrange the rooms so more space goes to the utility room/technical room. And if you don’t want to “believe” us (maybe we just conspired and chose you as a target and are just messing with you here), then just google around for more info about space requirements. You’ll also learn about the consequences of drying laundry inside the living area, which might still work in old houses but causes condensation and mold problems in new builds.

One more tip: never trust friends or family when they say how they like your design. They will always say it’s great.

We know your floor plan. It’s just not our taste, just saying. I can accept everything written here, but opening such a big debate about drying laundry is beyond me. Apparently, people from the East are also fine with less space. Now you can hate me as much as you want. In the end, everyone will still say that $250,000 will never be enough to build a house like this.