ᐅ Looking for a construction company in the Greater Stuttgart area!

HoisleBauer22 schrieb:

That can definitely be considered an insult. [...] But I’m not holding a grudge, I just want to reflect back to you as a supposed “autist” what kind of impression your sentences might make on a person.

With that, you’ve practically answered that you are not autistic (which is not an insult but was a question), since interpreting neutral statements as offensive is almost a characteristic of non-autistic people 🙂

HoisleBauer22 schrieb:

Also, assigning any “blue type” (sounds like something learned at a seminar “Psychology for the Workplace”) is just putting people into a box. Also, your assumption that I consider the statements of these people as “emo nonsense” is definitely derogatory here.

No, for blue types (and even more so for blue types who are also autistic) it is a typical reaction not to perceive “emo nonsense” (which you called “funny results”) as valuable information:

HoisleBauer22 schrieb:

Asking around sometimes leads to funny results like “We just felt well taken care of,” “It just clicked,” or “They just sensed what we wanted,” or “They simply matched our taste,” or “We were lucky, everything went well with them.” That is only of limited help.

If that’s not a devaluation: people are giving you valuable information, and you say it is only “of limited help.” Hey, these people talked to you—a stranger—about their feelings! (which is meant with empathy on their part) — they can’t help that their answers are not formatted in a way that matches your expectations! — they’re not trying to disappoint you, they simply can’t read your mind.

Regarding the assessment (or as you call it “putting in a box”): you can be sure that every experienced sales consultant makes such an assessment—whether on an individual basis using “color types,” temperament theory, Myers-Briggs, or other methods. Trained sales consultants—which are rather rare in home sales, by the way—are trained to “connect with” the interested party and guide them to the product best suited for them (your typically defensive reaction led me to categorize you as a blue type and to ask if you might also have autism). You have to keep in mind that sales consultants are engaged as intermediaries between you and the products they offer. Providing information for purely parametric comparison funnels is not seen as their task by sales departments. If you consider this consumer-unfriendly ...

HoisleBauer22 schrieb:

But they must be forced to do so, if necessary by legal pressure (see antitrust authorities and building regulations / contractual rules for construction companies). Otherwise, homebuilders would just be taken advantage of.

… then that is, let’s say neutrally 🙂 , “your point of view.” If I were to read this through your sensitive-lens filter, I would have to assume that you see those refusing to provide the information you want as offenders. Just reflecting that back to you, in case you understand …

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11ant schrieb:

If that isn’t put down: people give you valuable information, and you say it only "helps to a limited extent."

I don’t understand why you’re so determined to defend the homebuilders in new development areas... My goal is not to belittle them, I didn’t write that anywhere. How I evaluate their information (whether useful or not) has nothing to do with their personality!

11ant schrieb:

Hey, those people shared their feelings with you – a stranger! (that was meant empathetically from their side) – it’s not their fault that this response isn’t formatted in a way that matches your expectations! – they don’t want to disappoint you, they just can’t read your mind.

I know that, it’s clear to me. My point was to show that asking around in new development areas isn’t necessarily the best approach. And it doesn’t always lead to finding the right provider. That’s what this is about.

11ant schrieb:

Regarding assessment (or as you call it, "putting someone in a box"): you can be sure that every experienced sales consultant does this – whether individually according to "color" types, temperament theory, Myers-Briggs, or other methods. Trained sales consultants – who are actually rather rare in home sales – are trained to "meet" the interested parties and guide them to the product best suited for them.

I suspected as much, that sales consultants receive some kind of psychologically based customer profiles during their training and so get an idea of how to deal with customers. I agree with you, of course they don’t want to give out purely tabular data.

11ant schrieb:

Your sensitive-lens view

Seems like you enjoy provoking new users here? Go for it 😎

@HoisleBauer22
If you keep going like this, collecting detailed work descriptions and data sheets and trying to compare them in spreadsheet programs, there are hundreds of other construction companies that don’t make a living by feeding you with information.
Then you won’t build a house.
Clients who demand 3.1B certificates for the nails and the certificates of conformity (COC) for the window handles are just a nuisance and slow down the construction process.
Your broad inquiry with the detailed description (at least 10 pages) has already put you in that category.
The only person who can match your request with what the construction company can offer is the sales representative, whom you don’t want to meet.
Or do you think the company owner will handle that personally, just for you?

Nida35a schrieb:

Then you are not building a house.

That almost sounds like a threat or a warning. Take it easy. So far, I have successfully collected many specifications and offers. Based on those, I form my opinion and calmly decide with whom to have deeper discussions and negotiations.

Nida35a schrieb:

Clients who demand 3.1B certificates for the nails and the COC for the window handles only annoy and delay the construction process.

My opinion. I’m glad that I’m not one of them.

Nida35a schrieb:

Your broad request with a detailed description (at least 10 pages)... Or do you expect the boss to do that personally, just for you?

Where do you get that idea from? Again: please lower the emotional level. I don’t even know where this anger from you and 11fant is coming from. That’s at least how I perceive your posts. Personal attacks or barbs are not helpful here.

HoisleBauer22 schrieb:

I don’t understand where this anger from you and 11fant comes from. At least that’s how I perceive your posts. Personal attacks or barbs aren’t helpful here.

I am factual and in a good mood, no anger involved.
Many people here have built, are building, or are planning to build. The methods vary, and your approach is uncommon.
I wish you much success with your house construction,
please keep us updated 🙂

I really appreciate how you respond, Nida. Others would have immediately reacted more harshly. So the usual approach is to ask around first and then select 2-3 contractors to have individual meetings with, I assume?

I’m happy to keep you updated. I think it’s a great thing if people here value that.