ᐅ Samsung air-to-water heat pump with fully integrated air conditioning system

Created on: 20 Oct 2021 11:54
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Araknis
Araknis20 Oct 2021 11:54
Hello. This morning, a Samsung ad on Instagram really caught my attention… it was about an air-to-water heat pump, whose outdoor unit can also operate genuine split air conditioning indoor units. So, it’s truly an air conditioning system and not just a largely ineffective floor cooling system. It’s called Samsung TDM or EHS, but I haven’t found any detailed information yet through quick mobile searches.

Does anyone know this system? It sounds like a great solution if you want both anyway.
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tamer.darweesh
12 Dec 2021 23:42
Araknis schrieb:

It was about an air-to-water heat pump, whose outdoor unit can also operate genuine split-type indoor air conditioning units. That means a real air conditioning system and not just a largely pointless floor cooling.

That sounds interesting if the costs and operation are truly efficient. Have you managed to get more information about these units?
Mycraft13 Dec 2021 00:25
Araknis schrieb:

So, really an air conditioner

Every air-to-water heat pump is a "real air conditioner," but it usually affects the water in the underfloor heating system as the transfer medium, rather than directly conditioning the air. However, the technology is the same.

If, instead of the indoor unit used for heating the water, a "conventional" indoor unit were connected to heat or cool the air, it would work the same way.

Basically, nothing new has been developed here; it is most likely just a multisplit system repurposed. Two or more indoor units, with one or two heating the water, and the others cooling the air in summer. From a control technology perspective, this is not really a problem.
Araknis13 Dec 2021 09:35
It is clear that this is not technically something very special. What was new to me, however, was the implementation in a way that I can simply buy it like this. By "real," I mean the Klimapart as an air-to-air heat pump and not as an unfavorable solution through the floor.
Mycraft13 Dec 2021 10:04
Yes, I understood you and that’s why I explained that this is nothing new. Every heat pump is essentially an air conditioner. It’s just that the term “heat pump” is deliberately pushed because most people react negatively when they hear “air conditioner,” and somehow the technology still needs to be sold.

The whole thing is only solved with underfloor heating because it basically doesn’t cost anything extra and you don’t need an additional indoor unit or anything like that. Adding those would increase the whole system’s cost, and most homeowners don’t want to pay more.

But my advice: if you want a “real air conditioner,” just install a second heat pump that cools the house. That’s how it has always been done. It’s simply more efficient and cheaper both in operation and initial investment.
Araknis13 Dec 2021 10:21
Mycraft schrieb:

Because it is simply more efficient and cheaper to operate and purchase.
That’s exactly the question right now. Why should a second, additional device be more efficient and cheaper to operate? As I see it, this would be a "real" air conditioning system with indoor air split units. I’m not considering the purchase costs here because I simply don’t know them for the combined unit 🙂