ᐅ Looking for a construction company in the Greater Stuttgart area!
Created on: 18 Sep 2018 21:18
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budbrd
Hello,
we have purchased a plot of land near Stuttgart and submitted a building permit application. Unfortunately, the cost estimates keep increasing.
The project is a single-family house with a living area of 250 m² (2690 sq ft), including a double garage and basement, KfW40+ standard.
Can anyone recommend a construction company in the greater Stuttgart area?
Thanks in advance!
we have purchased a plot of land near Stuttgart and submitted a building permit application. Unfortunately, the cost estimates keep increasing.
The project is a single-family house with a living area of 250 m² (2690 sq ft), including a double garage and basement, KfW40+ standard.
Can anyone recommend a construction company in the greater Stuttgart area?
Thanks in advance!
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Durran123420 Oct 2021 07:46So, when I look at the quote at the very beginning, the following catches my attention.
The prefabricated garage costs 9,500 euros. When I check online, the same garage made of concrete, plastered, with crane delivery to the site, measuring 7x3 meters (23x10 feet), costs 3,625 euros. This is just an example. Do I really have to throw almost 6,000 euros out the window?
If you keep going like this, the thousands just add up quickly. And the turnkey option was and still is expensive.
The prefabricated garage costs 9,500 euros. When I check online, the same garage made of concrete, plastered, with crane delivery to the site, measuring 7x3 meters (23x10 feet), costs 3,625 euros. This is just an example. Do I really have to throw almost 6,000 euros out the window?
If you keep going like this, the thousands just add up quickly. And the turnkey option was and still is expensive.
You really have spoken with 20 companies and requested quotes....???
Durran1234 schrieb:
So, when I look at the first offer, the following stands out to me. Which post are you referring to?
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
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HoisleBauer2220 Oct 2021 23:43face26 schrieb:
I think you have a different understanding of comparability or haven’t been following here long enough. Well, I’m not comparing a solid construction house with a timber frame house. You just have to pick out what interests you, for example, what kind of ventilation system is installed, how large the standard roof windows are, what materials the interior walls are made of... I don’t deny that this is very complicated. I’m actually lamenting here that comparability is difficult because you can’t just put the information side by side in a table.
face26 schrieb:
Asking around a bit and getting recommendations (for example, in new housing developments) to select a few favorites to focus on, and then having a personal conversation with them. That’s a good idea, but many "new housing developments" in urban areas are basically large apartment blocks or endless rows of townhouses. Single-family homes are rather rare there; you’d have to go further out into rural areas and talk to complete strangers.
Asking around sometimes leads to amusing results like "We just felt well looked after," "It just felt right," "They understood what we wanted," "They matched our taste," or "We were lucky, everything went well with them." That only helps to a limited extent. And as it’s stated in the other, more appropriate forum section for this discussion: There are occasionally shady consultants or site managers at construction companies. Therefore, I think it makes sense to take the hard facts from a detailed scope of work description and make a decision based on that.
11ant schrieb:
being led by sales advisors What is that supposed to mean?
11ant schrieb:
Wanting to figure out whether you are a genuine customer or just a last-minute price shopper for the next steps. I don’t understand the point of this overly complicated phrasing. Why am I not a customer (but instead a “last-minute price shopper” — love the framing and labels!) if I want the detailed scope of work and concrete prices (including options) without much small talk and two hours of ruining the climate by driving there?
By the way, I’m surprised you’re so interested in what consultants think about customers — have you ever worked as one or are you currently working as one?
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HoisleBauer2220 Oct 2021 23:55tomtom79 schrieb:
You criticize that the glossy brochures are not meaningful, but when a provider invites you, it’s too far for you to travel.. Why would I want to visit factory halls (“Look how great our new machines are”), I’m not looking to buy a factory or machines, but rather to meet an honest and open builder in their home who tells me what went well or poorly with the company 🙂
A preliminary selection might make sense if you only have 1-2 providers who are actually being considered. But are fancy tiles and stylish fixtures really a good deciding factor for working with one builder or another?
HoisleBauer22 schrieb:
Listening around sometimes leads to funny results like "We just felt well taken care of," "It simply fit," or "They just sensed what we wanted," or "They matched our taste," or "We were lucky; everything went well with them." That only helps you to a limited extent. This may seem like emotional nonsense without informative value to you (are you generally just a blue personality type or specifically on the autism spectrum?), but the respondents don’t know that and aren’t saying it to annoy you or to make you think they’re stupid. People like you can make use of such answers and find them helpful. The majority of people are neurotypical and are not trained to respond satisfactorily to emotionless, parameter-based replies.
HoisleBauer22 schrieb:
Here I don’t understand the point of the extremely complicated phrasing. Why wouldn’t I be considered a prospective customer […] if I want the detailed scope of work and concrete prices (including options) without a lot of unnecessary talk […]? The scope of work should be easy to find and available for download without registration, I agree with you on that. Fully disclosing their price calculations is understandably an uncomfortable thought for providers. It is also neither necessary nor justified, since no customer is likely to buy a large selection of houses from every model. Preparing the informational materials requires considerable effort — providers don’t want to just shoot a broad salvo. No sales department likes brochure collectors (referred to as “prospect hoarders” at trade fairs, or, related to the blue personality type, “data sheet” collectors).
HoisleBauer22 schrieb:
By the way, I’m surprised that you want to know so precisely what consultants think about customers — have you ever worked as one or are you currently working as one? I know what providers think about inquirers. The construction industry has been my world since the early 1980s, and I now have about thirty years of experience, loosely speaking, as a professional in preparing procurement documentation. Technical salespeople are among my most frequent lunch companions.
https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/