Hello everyone,
we are currently planning the floor layout. We have a design from the architect and our own draft, and we would appreciate your feedback. Thank you very much!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 2000 sqm (0.5 acres)
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.18
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: rear alignment must follow neighboring buildings / building boundary
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: single-story, bungalow, no fixed staircase, access to attic via hatch with folding ladder
Roof type: gable or hip roof
Orientation: rear/terrace facing south, sunny from noon onward, some trees on the east side next to the house
Additional requirements: 2 m (6.5 ft) right of way along the western property line, adjacent to a relatively quiet side street
Homeowner Requirements
Building type: L-shaped bungalow
Basement, floors: no basement, 1 floor
Number of occupants, age: planned for 2 adults about 40 years old and 2 children, age- and wheelchair-accessible
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: 130–140 sqm (1400–1500 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office, attic accessed via folding ladder to be used as office
Occasional guests per year: separate small outbuilding on the plot for visitors
Open or closed architecture: closed, option to open access between kitchen and living room as needed (e.g., sliding door), kitchen and living room access to terrace
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island preferred (without stove), at least a counter with seating at worktop height, including a small “hidden” pantry
Number of dining spots: counter 3, dining table 8
Fireplace: undecided
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: large garage for one Multivan + one car, 2 motorcycles, possibly bicycles, with the possibility to drive one car out of the garage into the yard from the rear
Utility room: large utility room (for technical equipment, washing machine/dryer, sink, plenty of space for drying racks/ironing, sports bags, etc.), with natural daylight
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, including reasons why some things should or should not be included:
- Second house entrance through the garage directly into the utility room and from there into the hallway leading to the cloakroom
- Living room approx. 30 sqm (320 sq ft)
- Bedroom (at the back) approx. 20 sqm (215 sq ft) + small walk-in closet, one wardrobe in bedroom, enough space around the bed
- Large bathroom with walk-in, barrier-free shower (approx. 2 m x 1.5 m (6.5 ft x 5 ft)), bathtub (not a corner bathtub), double sink, toilet
- Small guest bathroom including shower
- Preferably large window with seating area
- Windows/doors to garden/terrace possibly as sliding doors
House Design
Designer:
- House: architect
- Floor plan: 1x architect, 1x DIY
What do you like? Why?
Architect: combination of kitchen and living room
DIY: kitchen, access from hallway to dining area, hidden pantry, built-in cloakroom in hall, walk-in closet in bedroom
What do you not like? Why?
Architect: rooms lead directly from living room without hallway, utility room and bathrooms too small, utility room without natural light, office (= 2nd children’s room) accessed through kitchen, bedroom faces front, long distance between bedroom and main bathroom.
DIY: division of the angle between living room and bedroom probably not ideal?, long hallway is wasted space?
Preferred heating system: no idea yet
If you had to give up certain details/extensions
- Could give up: kitchen island, walk-in closet
- Cannot give up: access through utility room, kitchen separable from living room
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can kitchen, living room, and bedroom be optimally arranged in the rear corner of the house?
we are currently planning the floor layout. We have a design from the architect and our own draft, and we would appreciate your feedback. Thank you very much!
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: approx. 2000 sqm (0.5 acres)
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.18
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: rear alignment must follow neighboring buildings / building boundary
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: single-story, bungalow, no fixed staircase, access to attic via hatch with folding ladder
Roof type: gable or hip roof
Orientation: rear/terrace facing south, sunny from noon onward, some trees on the east side next to the house
Additional requirements: 2 m (6.5 ft) right of way along the western property line, adjacent to a relatively quiet side street
Homeowner Requirements
Building type: L-shaped bungalow
Basement, floors: no basement, 1 floor
Number of occupants, age: planned for 2 adults about 40 years old and 2 children, age- and wheelchair-accessible
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor: 130–140 sqm (1400–1500 sq ft)
Office: family use or home office? Home office, attic accessed via folding ladder to be used as office
Occasional guests per year: separate small outbuilding on the plot for visitors
Open or closed architecture: closed, option to open access between kitchen and living room as needed (e.g., sliding door), kitchen and living room access to terrace
Conservative or modern design: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island preferred (without stove), at least a counter with seating at worktop height, including a small “hidden” pantry
Number of dining spots: counter 3, dining table 8
Fireplace: undecided
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: large garage for one Multivan + one car, 2 motorcycles, possibly bicycles, with the possibility to drive one car out of the garage into the yard from the rear
Utility room: large utility room (for technical equipment, washing machine/dryer, sink, plenty of space for drying racks/ironing, sports bags, etc.), with natural daylight
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, including reasons why some things should or should not be included:
- Second house entrance through the garage directly into the utility room and from there into the hallway leading to the cloakroom
- Living room approx. 30 sqm (320 sq ft)
- Bedroom (at the back) approx. 20 sqm (215 sq ft) + small walk-in closet, one wardrobe in bedroom, enough space around the bed
- Large bathroom with walk-in, barrier-free shower (approx. 2 m x 1.5 m (6.5 ft x 5 ft)), bathtub (not a corner bathtub), double sink, toilet
- Small guest bathroom including shower
- Preferably large window with seating area
- Windows/doors to garden/terrace possibly as sliding doors
House Design
Designer:
- House: architect
- Floor plan: 1x architect, 1x DIY
What do you like? Why?
Architect: combination of kitchen and living room
DIY: kitchen, access from hallway to dining area, hidden pantry, built-in cloakroom in hall, walk-in closet in bedroom
What do you not like? Why?
Architect: rooms lead directly from living room without hallway, utility room and bathrooms too small, utility room without natural light, office (= 2nd children’s room) accessed through kitchen, bedroom faces front, long distance between bedroom and main bathroom.
DIY: division of the angle between living room and bedroom probably not ideal?, long hallway is wasted space?
Preferred heating system: no idea yet
If you had to give up certain details/extensions
- Could give up: kitchen island, walk-in closet
- Cannot give up: access through utility room, kitchen separable from living room
What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
How can kitchen, living room, and bedroom be optimally arranged in the rear corner of the house?
Fromy21 schrieb:
Where do you see the big space wasters?Well, you’re drawing a bedroom with a walk-in closet, that would be 2 x 60cm (24 inches) wardrobes, 100cm (39 inches) in between, a 2-meter (6 ft 7 in) long bed, and just as much space underneath. Almost 24 square meters (260 square feet), and as drawn, not even youth-friendly (the opposite of age-appropriate / accessible 😀), since the bed can’t be used from the side. Your right exterior wall is around 11 meters (36 ft) long 😉 Tip: use graph paper or print out millimeter paper and draw it out.
A floor area ratio of 0.18 is already quite ambitious, and a 2-meter (6.5 feet) right of way is also very tight (that’s only really suitable for walking or a small cart; you’d need some maneuvering room for a mid-size car). I see two floor plans—who designed which one? The one drawn with a ruler is the less practical option, especially considering two children but only one bedroom allocated for them. Please provide more detailed information about the building regulations or specify the relevant document or ordinance name (without a link).
Offhand, I would recommend moving away from the double constraint of a bungalow and an L-shaped design, which, by the way, with a hipped roof will add expenses roughly equivalent to the size of a child’s bedroom plus the cost of brick cladding or large-format tiles.
Regarding age-appropriate design, I wouldn’t recommend allocating budget for that at this stage of life. At around 40 years old, people tend to build again closer to retirement.
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Offhand, I would recommend moving away from the double constraint of a bungalow and an L-shaped design, which, by the way, with a hipped roof will add expenses roughly equivalent to the size of a child’s bedroom plus the cost of brick cladding or large-format tiles.
Regarding age-appropriate design, I wouldn’t recommend allocating budget for that at this stage of life. At around 40 years old, people tend to build again closer to retirement.
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
11ant schrieb:
A floor area ratio of 0.18 is already quite ambitious, and a 2 m (6.5 ft) right of way as well (that’s only enough for walking or a small cart; with a mid-size car, you’d already have to maneuver carefully). I see two floor plans—who created each? The one drawn with a ruler is the weaker option, especially considering 2 children but only 1 bedroom for them. Please provide more detailed information about the zoning plan requirements or state its reference or name (without a link).
Off the top of my head, I would recommend moving away from the double dogma of a bungalow and an L-shape, which, by the way, with a hip roof involves additional costs roughly equivalent to an extra child’s bedroom, plus costs for brick cladding or large-format tiles.
Regarding age-appropriate design, I wouldn’t strain my building budget at this stage of life. At around 40 today, you’re more likely to build again near retirement age.The right of way is 3 m (10 ft), sorry. What would your roof recommendation be for an L-shaped building?ypg schrieb:
Well, you’re drawing a bedroom with a walk-in closet, which means two 60cm (24 inches) wide wardrobes, 100cm (39 inches) in between, a 2-meter (6.6 feet) long bed, and the same space below. Just under 24 square meters (approximately 258 square feet), and as drawn, not even age-appropriate (which is the opposite of accessible/barrier-free 😀) since the bed can’t be accessed from the side. Your right exterior wall is about 11 meters (36 feet) long 😉
Tip: Use graph paper or print out some millimeter paper and then draw. A detailed plan/drawing was the next step 😉.
I just needed a rough idea of the layout first. Then I can look more closely at the square meters / walls.
We definitely want all rooms on the ground floor together. The attic is more of a “bonus.” To convert it, the height, roof, stairs, etc. would have to be different.
Fromy21 schrieb:
What would be your roof recommendation for a bungalow with a pitched roof?Secondly, I would not recommend the pitched bungalow as such, and first of all, we need more precise specifications!https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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11ant schrieb:
Secondly, I would not recommend the angled bungalow as such, and first of all, we need more precise specifications! The angled bungalow with an attached garage, as well as its position and external dimensions, should remain largely unchanged. The preliminary building inquiry was approved based on this.
Our question here is actually only about the floor plan – specifically, how the interior layout can be optimized. We would be very grateful for any tips and advice.