ᐅ Single-family house floor plan, 2 full stories, approximately 180 m², on a 600 m² plot of land
Created on: 6 Oct 2021 00:29
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Masterle25
Hello dear members,
like most others, I have also been quietly following along for quite some time. There are many great pieces of advice here.
The building application has been submitted, and the exterior dimensions as well as the number of windows are fixed. Positioning is still negotiable in consultation, though only to a limited extent. Inside, we basically still have almost all options. The general contractor (GC) is a local family business and has been operating for over 20 years. They are consistently found in the surrounding new development areas, along with two other GCs, and their reputation is quite remarkable. (In fact, we spent quite some time interviewing the newly settled homeowners around us... *g*) One GC was excluded because of the building method (exclusively KfW 40+ standard), and another after submitting a proposal. The process so far has taken about 10 months, starting with graph paper, heating technology, necessary rooms, house positioning, and so on. There are great guides on this topic in the forum!
So, I hope these words were inviting enough to read through the list of questions. If I have forgotten anything, please let me know. I look forward to your feedback, critical comments are also welcome!
Development plan / Restrictions
No development plan
Plot size – 598 sqm (6,435 sq ft)
Slope – no
Floor area ratio – 0.3
Building window, building line and boundary – 3 m (10 feet) distance on all sides
Other stipulations – orientation aligned with neighboring buildings
The building project, including documents, has already been approved by the relevant building authority.
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type – gable roof / 30° pitch facing south with a 10 kWp photovoltaic system, KfW 55 EE standard
Basement, floors – slab-on-grade foundation, 2 full floors, unheated attic
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3 people, planned 4; ages 38, 35, 1
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – Ground floor: living/dining, closed kitchen, study/guest room, WC/bathroom, utility/technical room, guest WC including shower
Upper floor: bedroom, dressing room (emergency room if 3rd child), 2 children’s rooms, bathroom
Office: 2 home office workstations
Guests per year: max. 5, excluding drunken friends, who usually make do with the couch *g*
Open or closed architecture: rather closed architecture
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, island: closed kitchen, island only used as a workspace
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall: TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: none
Garage, carport: garage plus carport cover
House design
Who created the plan:
Planner from a construction company, based on our draft floor plan
What do you particularly like? Why? All necessary rooms are present in sufficient size
What do you not like? Why? Office entrance difficult to use, lack of space due to guest WC and living room widening
Fixed price: approx. 450,000€
Personal price limit for house, including fittings: 550,000€
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump + underfloor heating
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions:
- can give up: size of the dressing room
- cannot give up: office / two children’s rooms
Why did the design turn out like it is now?
Which wishes were implemented by the planner?
- We have already planned and commissioned the kitchen; floor plan adjusted accordingly (changes still possible)
We hesitated a long time over open vs. closed kitchen and, after deciding, debated for a long time over whether to have a pantry behind the kitchen front or not; it is now behind sliding elements on the right side (see attachment)
- Storage space under the stairs
- Bedroom window removed on the east side because of bedroom closet
- Living room widened due to TV wall and to gain space
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
All rooms are suitable for everyday use, and living on the ground floor later with minimal alterations is possible
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are the individual rooms adequately lit? I have no sense of this at all. Any obvious flaws?
PS: North is at the top on the site plan as well as on both floor plans!
like most others, I have also been quietly following along for quite some time. There are many great pieces of advice here.
The building application has been submitted, and the exterior dimensions as well as the number of windows are fixed. Positioning is still negotiable in consultation, though only to a limited extent. Inside, we basically still have almost all options. The general contractor (GC) is a local family business and has been operating for over 20 years. They are consistently found in the surrounding new development areas, along with two other GCs, and their reputation is quite remarkable. (In fact, we spent quite some time interviewing the newly settled homeowners around us... *g*) One GC was excluded because of the building method (exclusively KfW 40+ standard), and another after submitting a proposal. The process so far has taken about 10 months, starting with graph paper, heating technology, necessary rooms, house positioning, and so on. There are great guides on this topic in the forum!
So, I hope these words were inviting enough to read through the list of questions. If I have forgotten anything, please let me know. I look forward to your feedback, critical comments are also welcome!
Development plan / Restrictions
No development plan
Plot size – 598 sqm (6,435 sq ft)
Slope – no
Floor area ratio – 0.3
Building window, building line and boundary – 3 m (10 feet) distance on all sides
Other stipulations – orientation aligned with neighboring buildings
The building project, including documents, has already been approved by the relevant building authority.
Homeowners’ requirements
Style, roof type, building type – gable roof / 30° pitch facing south with a 10 kWp photovoltaic system, KfW 55 EE standard
Basement, floors – slab-on-grade foundation, 2 full floors, unheated attic
Number of occupants, ages – currently 3 people, planned 4; ages 38, 35, 1
Space requirements on ground floor and upper floor – Ground floor: living/dining, closed kitchen, study/guest room, WC/bathroom, utility/technical room, guest WC including shower
Upper floor: bedroom, dressing room (emergency room if 3rd child), 2 children’s rooms, bathroom
Office: 2 home office workstations
Guests per year: max. 5, excluding drunken friends, who usually make do with the couch *g*
Open or closed architecture: rather closed architecture
Conservative or modern construction: conservative
Open kitchen, island: closed kitchen, island only used as a workspace
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/speaker wall: TV wall
Balcony, roof terrace: none
Garage, carport: garage plus carport cover
House design
Who created the plan:
Planner from a construction company, based on our draft floor plan
What do you particularly like? Why? All necessary rooms are present in sufficient size
What do you not like? Why? Office entrance difficult to use, lack of space due to guest WC and living room widening
Fixed price: approx. 450,000€
Personal price limit for house, including fittings: 550,000€
Preferred heating technology: air-to-water heat pump + underfloor heating
If you had to give up something, which details/extensions:
- can give up: size of the dressing room
- cannot give up: office / two children’s rooms
Why did the design turn out like it is now?
Which wishes were implemented by the planner?
- We have already planned and commissioned the kitchen; floor plan adjusted accordingly (changes still possible)
We hesitated a long time over open vs. closed kitchen and, after deciding, debated for a long time over whether to have a pantry behind the kitchen front or not; it is now behind sliding elements on the right side (see attachment)
- Storage space under the stairs
- Bedroom window removed on the east side because of bedroom closet
- Living room widened due to TV wall and to gain space
What makes it particularly good or bad in your opinion?
All rooms are suitable for everyday use, and living on the ground floor later with minimal alterations is possible
What is the most important / fundamental question about the floor plan in 130 characters?
Are the individual rooms adequately lit? I have no sense of this at all. Any obvious flaws?
PS: North is at the top on the site plan as well as on both floor plans!
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Ypsi aus NI6 Oct 2021 08:34I would swap the kitchen and living area!
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Masterle256 Oct 2021 16:07Zubi123 schrieb:
I notice the low ceiling height. After accounting for the floor structure, there will only be a maximum of 2.44 m (8 feet) left. Depending on your own height and the door heights, I think this could be improved.
In the kitchen, I would find the lighting insufficient and would miss the view of the courtyard: 2nd window. 2.45 m (8 feet) is the standard height; anything else will probably become too expensive. The rough construction height of 262.5 cm (8 feet 7 inches) is also stated in the general contractor’s building description. However, I will ask about it myself, since I’m curious. I am 1.88 m (6 feet 2 inches) tall and feel comfortable with a similar height in my current apartment.
The lighting in the kitchen is also a big question mark for me. Originally, a double garage was planned, so a window on the north side was not an option, and the plans were designed accordingly. Now, there is a carport on the side; a window would fit there, but the cooking area including the extractor hood and two wall cabinets need that space. To fit a window in between, you would probably have to change the island into a cooking island. However, that would contradict the closed room concept we ultimately chose... it’s not that easy. *g* Do you think a partly glazed door leading to the hallway area plus a usually open sliding door would not provide enough light?
Hmm, the kitchen room is 390cm (153 inches) wide. With one row on the right and one row on the left, where exactly is there space for an island?
An XXL dishwasher door extends 64cm (25 inches) into the room, each refrigerator door 60cm (24 inches), and a drawer 45cm (18 inches).
An XXL dishwasher door extends 64cm (25 inches) into the room, each refrigerator door 60cm (24 inches), and a drawer 45cm (18 inches).
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Masterle256 Oct 2021 16:24ypg schrieb:
I would place the bed against the exterior wall. First, you shouldn’t put wardrobes against exterior walls due to the risk of mold, and secondly, for a better sense of space. Luckily, there are other types of furniture besides wardrobes 😉 That’s exactly what we’re going to do and it makes perfect sense. Sometimes you can’t see the forest for the trees, especially since we had a mold problem in the bedroom last winter in our current apartment. Thanks so much for the tip!! 😀
On the ground floor, I would avoid the two walls between the living room and dining area. They don’t really help. In practice, that creates a kind of “square arch” (I can’t find the right term… 🤨). At first, we had everything quite open until my wife noticed she didn’t have any walls to place wardrobes or similar furniture against. We currently have this “square arch” in our apartment and actually find it quite pleasant. I think it’s really a matter of personal taste; it makes the sofa area feel a bit more secluded. I’ll add this point to our To-Do list and discuss it with my wife!
If you can place the toilet and shower side by side across the current shower area on the upper floor, that would create a nicely hidden bathroom, which is beneficial for 4 or 5 people. Could you maybe sketch that out for me? I’m having a hard time picturing how you would design the bathroom. Generally, my wife doesn’t mind having the toilet out in the open at all; I’m actually the one who’d prefer to hide it... 😉
There are no drawbacks. Such a conservative layout has always worked. You’re the third or fourth this week trying to fit into a 4 sqm (43 sq ft) bathroom at your age. Phew… I’m satisfied with that for now. :-)) And yes, the age thing is probably wishful thinking. You try to get everything to fit and still want what you like now for the years ahead.
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Masterle256 Oct 2021 16:26evelinoz schrieb:
Hmm, the kitchen space is 390cm (153 inches) wide. With a row of units on the right and one on the left, where would an island fit here?
An XXL dishwasher door sticks out 64cm (25 inches) into the room, each refrigerator door 60cm (24 inches), and a drawer 45cm (18 inches). Take a look at the kitchen layout in the floor plan—it’s not the actual one. That plan was simply placed there by the designer. The units are only on the left and front sides, while the right side is the pantry behind sliding elements.
Masterle25 schrieb:
In practice, this results in a "square arch" (I can't think of the proper term... 🤨).I think you mean a beam.Similar topics