ᐅ Floor plan of a traditional single-family house on a 700 sqm plot with east-facing access
Created on: 5 Oct 2021 00:20
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Mitch404
Hey everyone,
many of you probably know this situation: suddenly there are three of you, and you realize that your current apartment will soon be too small. My wife and I have therefore decided to treat ourselves to a single-family home. We are currently working with the architect we chose to develop the floor plan.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft)
No slope
Site occupancy ratio (building coverage ratio): 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories; with two full stories, a knee wall is not allowed
Roof style: Gable roof
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: The roof style is fixed as a gable roof. The house should also blend in with neighboring buildings, so a more rectangular than square (town villa) footprint is preferred.
Basement, floors: No basement and no sloping ceilings desired; therefore, two full stories
Number of residents, ages: 3 people aged 35, 30, and 0.3 years; space for an additional child desired
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Typical needs of a family with two children and no special hobbies. A sufficiently sized utility room to be able to hang laundry indoors in winter. Kitchen large enough to comfortably bake a cake occasionally (currently only a 6 sqm (65 sq ft) kitchen, which is rather tight). We had also considered a home office on the ground floor to avoid guests needing to enter the upper floor, but overall that made the ground floor feel too large.
Office: The office is for home office use, designed for two workstations (usually not used at the same time) and with the possibility to accommodate occasional overnight guests.
Overnight guests per year: None regularly. If our parents or friends want to stay over, we want to have the option to use the office space for this.
Open or closed architecture: We think open layouts look nice, but in everyday life we want practicality, which includes being able to retreat occasionally. Therefore, a large living/dining area with a kitchen that can be at least partially integrated via a large sliding door, while the rest remains rather closed off.
Conservative or modern construction: Modern construction as far as we like it (for example, an open staircase in the living area is currently trendy but we do not like it, and for the “T” layout solution, we find our bathroom too small and cramped).
Open kitchen, kitchen island: The kitchen should not be fully open but with a large sliding door. A kitchen island and dining area directly in the kitchen would be nice.
Number of dining seats: 8+
Fireplace: No fireplace
Music/surround sound wall: Not desired. Besides the TV, a 2.1 sound system will be installed as now, and that’s enough.
Balcony, roof terrace: Not desired
Garage, carport: Carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: We plan a small utility garden — a few raised beds, maybe 1-2 regular beds — but the focus will be a low-maintenance recreational and leisure garden.
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why some things are desired or not: Each children’s bedroom has an attic ladder leading upward, so the rooms can be expanded upstairs when the kids are teenagers and want more space. We have seen this realized in 2-3 houses and think it’s pretty cool.
House Design
Who designed the plan: Independent architect
What do you especially like? Why? The southwest garden protected from the street. The living room, which is open yet still brings some calm due to the niche and the door that only leads into the dining area. The kitchen has a terrace door that can be unlocked from outside, so groceries can be carried straight into the kitchen. The walk-in closet, which adds visual calmness to the bedroom. Storage space under the stairs. The separation of the technical room and the utility room, allowing the utility room to be kept tidier.
What do you not like? Why? I worry that the bathroom on the ground floor and the office might be somewhat too small. The children’s rooms seem fairly generous with 17 sqm (183 sq ft); 16 sqm (172 sq ft) might have sufficed.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: The architect is handling only phases 1-4 for us. We have not yet decided whether to hire a general contractor or use individual contracts and arrange construction supervision ourselves.
Personal budget limit for the house, including fixtures and fittings: 500k
Preferred heating system: Ground-source heat pump with horizontal trench collector
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades
- can you do without: We have already dropped the basement and fireplace; we will probably also give up on the “T” layout in the bathroom to avoid making it too dark and cramped.
- cannot do without:
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? The plan was created individually based on a questionnaire we completed for the architect.
Which requests were implemented by the architect?
- Carport and shed cover the neighbor’s unsightly prefabricated garage.
- House and carport form a kind of L shape lying down that creates a protected southwest garden.
- Two children’s rooms with at least 15 sqm (161 sq ft) + office
- Kitchen separated from the living/dining area by sliding door
- Long-term option to convert the upper floor into a separate living unit (for flexibility and eligibility for KfW funding for two dwelling units)
What do you think makes the plan particularly good or bad?
Overall, we quite like the plan. We now want to look at details (for example, the walk-in closet slightly larger by about 1 sqm (11 sq ft) so that a low cabinet could fit against the second wall). The windows are not planned yet and were initially placed arbitrarily by the architect.
We are especially looking forward to your open feedback to optimize the plan further before it gets serious and hopefully avoid some mistakes. 😉
Best regards
Mitch404
many of you probably know this situation: suddenly there are three of you, and you realize that your current apartment will soon be too small. My wife and I have therefore decided to treat ourselves to a single-family home. We are currently working with the architect we chose to develop the floor plan.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 700 sqm (7,535 sq ft)
No slope
Site occupancy ratio (building coverage ratio): 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Number of parking spaces: 2
Number of floors: 2 full stories; with two full stories, a knee wall is not allowed
Roof style: Gable roof
Client Requirements
Style, roof type, building type: The roof style is fixed as a gable roof. The house should also blend in with neighboring buildings, so a more rectangular than square (town villa) footprint is preferred.
Basement, floors: No basement and no sloping ceilings desired; therefore, two full stories
Number of residents, ages: 3 people aged 35, 30, and 0.3 years; space for an additional child desired
Room requirements on ground floor and upper floor: Typical needs of a family with two children and no special hobbies. A sufficiently sized utility room to be able to hang laundry indoors in winter. Kitchen large enough to comfortably bake a cake occasionally (currently only a 6 sqm (65 sq ft) kitchen, which is rather tight). We had also considered a home office on the ground floor to avoid guests needing to enter the upper floor, but overall that made the ground floor feel too large.
Office: The office is for home office use, designed for two workstations (usually not used at the same time) and with the possibility to accommodate occasional overnight guests.
Overnight guests per year: None regularly. If our parents or friends want to stay over, we want to have the option to use the office space for this.
Open or closed architecture: We think open layouts look nice, but in everyday life we want practicality, which includes being able to retreat occasionally. Therefore, a large living/dining area with a kitchen that can be at least partially integrated via a large sliding door, while the rest remains rather closed off.
Conservative or modern construction: Modern construction as far as we like it (for example, an open staircase in the living area is currently trendy but we do not like it, and for the “T” layout solution, we find our bathroom too small and cramped).
Open kitchen, kitchen island: The kitchen should not be fully open but with a large sliding door. A kitchen island and dining area directly in the kitchen would be nice.
Number of dining seats: 8+
Fireplace: No fireplace
Music/surround sound wall: Not desired. Besides the TV, a 2.1 sound system will be installed as now, and that’s enough.
Balcony, roof terrace: Not desired
Garage, carport: Carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: We plan a small utility garden — a few raised beds, maybe 1-2 regular beds — but the focus will be a low-maintenance recreational and leisure garden.
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why some things are desired or not: Each children’s bedroom has an attic ladder leading upward, so the rooms can be expanded upstairs when the kids are teenagers and want more space. We have seen this realized in 2-3 houses and think it’s pretty cool.
House Design
Who designed the plan: Independent architect
What do you especially like? Why? The southwest garden protected from the street. The living room, which is open yet still brings some calm due to the niche and the door that only leads into the dining area. The kitchen has a terrace door that can be unlocked from outside, so groceries can be carried straight into the kitchen. The walk-in closet, which adds visual calmness to the bedroom. Storage space under the stairs. The separation of the technical room and the utility room, allowing the utility room to be kept tidier.
What do you not like? Why? I worry that the bathroom on the ground floor and the office might be somewhat too small. The children’s rooms seem fairly generous with 17 sqm (183 sq ft); 16 sqm (172 sq ft) might have sufficed.
Price estimate according to architect/planner: The architect is handling only phases 1-4 for us. We have not yet decided whether to hire a general contractor or use individual contracts and arrange construction supervision ourselves.
Personal budget limit for the house, including fixtures and fittings: 500k
Preferred heating system: Ground-source heat pump with horizontal trench collector
If you had to give up something, which details/upgrades
- can you do without: We have already dropped the basement and fireplace; we will probably also give up on the “T” layout in the bathroom to avoid making it too dark and cramped.
- cannot do without:
Why is the design the way it is now? For example:
Standard design from the planner? The plan was created individually based on a questionnaire we completed for the architect.
Which requests were implemented by the architect?
- Carport and shed cover the neighbor’s unsightly prefabricated garage.
- House and carport form a kind of L shape lying down that creates a protected southwest garden.
- Two children’s rooms with at least 15 sqm (161 sq ft) + office
- Kitchen separated from the living/dining area by sliding door
- Long-term option to convert the upper floor into a separate living unit (for flexibility and eligibility for KfW funding for two dwelling units)
What do you think makes the plan particularly good or bad?
Overall, we quite like the plan. We now want to look at details (for example, the walk-in closet slightly larger by about 1 sqm (11 sq ft) so that a low cabinet could fit against the second wall). The windows are not planned yet and were initially placed arbitrarily by the architect.
We are especially looking forward to your open feedback to optimize the plan further before it gets serious and hopefully avoid some mistakes. 😉
Best regards
Mitch404
ypg schrieb:
You can’t seriously mean that it’s important to you that your mess, no matter whose, isn’t seen by representatives or similar people?!I wouldn’t care. My better half does... that’s just how it is 🙂But I’m also not a fan of full visibility of the interior from the front door. Because then you can see the door from everywhere inside, including quickly kicked-off shoes, and so on. I don’t really want that visible from the sofa either.
Once the house reaches a certain size, there’s usually the grand entrance and the service entrance to solve this “problem.” But we’re still a bit far from that stage ;-) .
Sorry that I only have time to read the thread in bits today and therefore respond sporadically:
That sounds very interesting; would you like to share the questionnaire here?
I explain the architect’s process elsewhere according to the HOAI phase model. Two points about this approach strike me as inadvisable:
1. Sending the architect off after the building permit/planning permission phase and then leaving the project on your own through the challenging construction process is, in principle, not a wise idea. In my opinion, this is only topped by cutting off the architect’s involvement after phase 4 because this handover is even less suitable than including phase 5 as well. Additionally, the willingness to contract an architect only through phase 4 is often a sign of architects who lack practical experience in two important areas: cost estimation and construction management.
2. Looking for a general contractor yourselves would be two mistakes in one: first, the architect should handle that; second, I would never actively pursue a general contractor but only allow them to participate in the tender if they wish. Managing contracts yourselves, even if not as individual contracts, is a risky territory.
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Mitch404 schrieb:
Standard design from the planner? The plan was created individually for us after we completed a questionnaire for the architect.
That sounds very interesting; would you like to share the questionnaire here?
Mitch404 schrieb:
Cost estimate according to the architect/planner: the architect will only handle phases 1 to 4 for us. We haven’t yet decided whether to hire a general contractor or to manage individual contracts and appoint construction supervision ourselves.
I explain the architect’s process elsewhere according to the HOAI phase model. Two points about this approach strike me as inadvisable:
1. Sending the architect off after the building permit/planning permission phase and then leaving the project on your own through the challenging construction process is, in principle, not a wise idea. In my opinion, this is only topped by cutting off the architect’s involvement after phase 4 because this handover is even less suitable than including phase 5 as well. Additionally, the willingness to contract an architect only through phase 4 is often a sign of architects who lack practical experience in two important areas: cost estimation and construction management.
2. Looking for a general contractor yourselves would be two mistakes in one: first, the architect should handle that; second, I would never actively pursue a general contractor but only allow them to participate in the tender if they wish. Managing contracts yourselves, even if not as individual contracts, is a risky territory.
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https://www.linkedin.com/company/bauen-jetzt/
Schimi17915 Oct 2021 14:23RomeoZwo schrieb:
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But I’m also not a fan of having the entire interior of the house visible from the front door. Because then, on the other hand, the door itself is visible from everywhere, even with quickly slipped-off shoes and so on. I don’t really want to see that from the sofa either.
...That reminds me of THAT one word: frosted glass 😉(Or a mirror ...)
But both would require solid doors.
Regarding “quickly slipped-off shoes,” one word: discipline! 😀 🙄
Well... reaching a consensus here is probably impossible—unless everyone does whatever they like or feel they have to.
RomeoZwo schrieb:
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From a certain house size onward, there is usually a grand entrance and a service entrance for this “problem.” But we are still quite far from that ;-) .Oh... the (private) house entrance through the garage via the utility room could nowadays be called a kind of service entrance, and many modern houses have that—ours included 🙂Schimi1791 schrieb:
One more word on the topic of "quickly kicked-off shoes": discipline! 😀 🙄 😉
Schimi1791 schrieb:
But okay... reaching a consensus here is probably not possible—except that everyone does as they like or feel they must. We don’t need to agree. But the pros and cons should be understandable for the original poster. The decision is theirs!
Schimi1791 schrieb:
That one word comes to mind again: frosted glass 😉 But that doesn’t help if the front door is made of frosted glass – the point is to have openness between the entrance area and the garden. 😉
Yes, discipline... how do I even teach that to a 4-year-old when mom isn’t that consistent either.
It also always depends on the floor plan. In a house with a north-facing entrance and a south-facing terrace, I can imagine openness, for example by having a view through the dining area, more easily than in our case, where the entrance is on the side and the view would go straight through the lounge area right onto the TV.
RomeoZwo schrieb:
Yes, discipline... how do I teach that to a 4-year-old when mom isn't very consistent either.Oh come on, mom not consistent with taking off shoes? – I thought getting dirty was a male-specific trait ;-)https://www.instagram.com/11antgmxde/
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