ᐅ 3. Floor Plan Design New Single-Family House 220 sqm 2 Full Stories Roof Terrace
Created on: 3 Oct 2021 18:45
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idasb79
Hello everyone,
Our house construction plans have unfortunately been delayed a bit. In the meantime, we have come up with a new floor plan and are curious about your opinions.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 622 m² (6692 ft²)
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Gross floor area ratio (GFAR): 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 12 m x 14 m (39 ft x 46 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 1 + 1 garage
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: pitched roofs
Orientation: north
Additional requirements: drainage ditch in front of the building envelope on the south side, 3 m wide (10 ft), with two crossings planned
Owner Requirements
Architectural style, roof design, building type: ???
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 4; 42, 42, 15, 15
Annual overnight guests: none
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: no
Music/audio wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes
Garage, carport: yes
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are wanted or not
House Design
Designed by:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
Large living area and master bedroom with walk-in closet and bathroom
Large kitchen
What do you dislike? Why?
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
No exact cost estimate yet; initial figures are approximately 500,000 € plus 35,000 € own labor
Personal budget limit for the house, including equipment:
550,000 €
Preferred heating system:
No specific favorite, but if the conditions including subsidies are right, a ground source heat pump would be welcome again. Otherwise, price-performance ratio is important.
Our house construction plans have unfortunately been delayed a bit. In the meantime, we have come up with a new floor plan and are curious about your opinions.
Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 622 m² (6692 ft²)
Floor area ratio (FAR): 0.4
Gross floor area ratio (GFAR): 0.8
Building envelope, building line and boundary: 12 m x 14 m (39 ft x 46 ft)
Number of parking spaces: 1 + 1 garage
Number of floors: 2
Roof style: pitched roofs
Orientation: north
Additional requirements: drainage ditch in front of the building envelope on the south side, 3 m wide (10 ft), with two crossings planned
Owner Requirements
Architectural style, roof design, building type: ???
Basement, floors: no basement, 2 full floors
Number of people, ages: 4; 42, 42, 15, 15
Annual overnight guests: none
Conservative or modern construction: modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: kitchen island
Number of dining seats: 8
Fireplace: no
Music/audio wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: yes
Garage, carport: yes
Vegetable garden, greenhouse: no
Additional wishes / special features / daily routine, also reasons why certain things are wanted or not
House Design
Designed by:
- Do-it-Yourself
What do you particularly like? Why?
Large living area and master bedroom with walk-in closet and bathroom
Large kitchen
What do you dislike? Why?
Cost estimate according to architect/planner:
No exact cost estimate yet; initial figures are approximately 500,000 € plus 35,000 € own labor
Personal budget limit for the house, including equipment:
550,000 €
Preferred heating system:
No specific favorite, but if the conditions including subsidies are right, a ground source heat pump would be welcome again. Otherwise, price-performance ratio is important.
Additionally, regarding the roof and roof terrace. By the time you submit the application, photovoltaic systems will most likely be mandatory for new buildings. You will hardly be able to install anything on half of the roof. From both an economic and practical point of view, I would recommend dropping the roof terrace, enlarging the roof, and covering it fully with photovoltaic panels. That way, you will hardly see your "ugly" red roof tiles :-)
Schimi17915 Oct 2021 09:06Tom1978 schrieb:
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Of course, everything can be done, but the appropriate budget should be available...Money shouldn’t be a problem:
idasb79 schrieb:
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Ps. Money is no issue, there’s even more available ---
Personally, what bothers me about the design is, among other things, the single garage that appears to have been just “slapped onto” the house.
BBaumeister schrieb:
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- Leave out the "relaxation" area.
... I find that area somewhat appealing. Its usefulness can certainly be debated, especially since it takes up quite a bit of space... 🙂
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BBaumeister5 Oct 2021 09:09One more thing to consider:
You have planned a single garage. What about other parking options? Do you already have two cars? Your children will be almost grown up by the time the house is finished. Additional vehicles might then need parking space.
You have planned a single garage. What about other parking options? Do you already have two cars? Your children will be almost grown up by the time the house is finished. Additional vehicles might then need parking space.
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Costruttrice5 Oct 2021 10:49If the plot is as shown above in the exterior view, with a public area directly adjacent on the west side, I can understand orienting the living space toward the quiet garden side.
However, I would still reconsider the overall layout.
The path from the garage to the entrance seems too long for me. If the plan is to bring groceries in through the utility room, you might as well place the front door there as well.
Additionally, the long open-plan area would bother me. There is no place to retreat; from the sofa, you look directly at the kitchen area and vice versa. We had this in our first house too, and I found it uncomfortable.
I also find the staircase in the living room uncomfortable. It looks stylish in show homes, but in everyday life, with teenagers running up and down while you’re relaxing on the sofa, that would not be for me. Of course, this is purely a matter of personal taste!
I might consider placing the kitchen where the office is now, the dining area where the living room is, and the living room behind that, adjacent to the garage for the office. However, this is less than ideal in terms of sun orientation if that is important to you.
As others have already suggested, I would try to separate the children’s area and bathroom more cleverly from the parents’ area.
I would skip the balcony above the front door; it only adds cost without benefit. A glass canopy over the front door is definitely more affordable.
In any case, I would have an architect design the house freely, only specifying the room requirements. We also have a north-facing and otherwise challenging plot, and after the architect took what felt like forever, we drew and planned ourselves in parallel just for fun. But we would never have come up with the ideas he had!
I would have also preferred a straight staircase but had to accept that another design fit much better, and so on.
Although you mentioned that the budget is a secondary concern, I share the doubts about the quoted amount. Our architect significantly underestimated costs. It initially seemed too low to us as well, so we were not surprised when the estimate kept increasing as the planning progressed (we also planned some self-build work). Overall, the total fits our expectations because we anticipated this and budgeted accordingly.
Unfortunately, it really is the case that a house of this size with a roof terrace cannot be realized within that budget.
However, I would still reconsider the overall layout.
The path from the garage to the entrance seems too long for me. If the plan is to bring groceries in through the utility room, you might as well place the front door there as well.
Additionally, the long open-plan area would bother me. There is no place to retreat; from the sofa, you look directly at the kitchen area and vice versa. We had this in our first house too, and I found it uncomfortable.
I also find the staircase in the living room uncomfortable. It looks stylish in show homes, but in everyday life, with teenagers running up and down while you’re relaxing on the sofa, that would not be for me. Of course, this is purely a matter of personal taste!
I might consider placing the kitchen where the office is now, the dining area where the living room is, and the living room behind that, adjacent to the garage for the office. However, this is less than ideal in terms of sun orientation if that is important to you.
As others have already suggested, I would try to separate the children’s area and bathroom more cleverly from the parents’ area.
I would skip the balcony above the front door; it only adds cost without benefit. A glass canopy over the front door is definitely more affordable.
In any case, I would have an architect design the house freely, only specifying the room requirements. We also have a north-facing and otherwise challenging plot, and after the architect took what felt like forever, we drew and planned ourselves in parallel just for fun. But we would never have come up with the ideas he had!
I would have also preferred a straight staircase but had to accept that another design fit much better, and so on.
Although you mentioned that the budget is a secondary concern, I share the doubts about the quoted amount. Our architect significantly underestimated costs. It initially seemed too low to us as well, so we were not surprised when the estimate kept increasing as the planning progressed (we also planned some self-build work). Overall, the total fits our expectations because we anticipated this and budgeted accordingly.
Unfortunately, it really is the case that a house of this size with a roof terrace cannot be realized within that budget.
Schimi1791 schrieb:
Warning: This post may contain traces of irony!Why do posts like this unnecessarily extend a thread? Oh right, I forgot, people want likes to show how great they are. BBaumeister schrieb:
- Leave out the balcony. If you have a terrace, you’ll hardly ever sit on the balcony, especially if it faces the street.
- Leave out the studio and roof terrace.I already mentioned that those are not fixed and can be removed. Tom1978 schrieb:
By the time you submit the application, photovoltaic systems will most likely be mandatory for new builds. And you can hardly get much on half the roof. Half the roof is already over 80m2 (860 sq ft). That means you can definitely exceed the magic limit of 10 kWp. Tom1978 schrieb:
From an economic and practical point of view, I would leave out the roof terrace, extend the roof, and cover it fully with photovoltaic panels.If your photovoltaic system is planned and installed like that, half the investment was wasted. What use are photovoltaic panels on a north-facing surface? Schimi1791 schrieb:
Personally, what bothers me in the design is the single garage “pasted on” the house. Me too. Unfortunately, the development plan doesn’t allow more. It’s either a bigger garage and smaller house, or vice versa. BBaumeister schrieb:
One thing to consider:
You have planned a single garage. What about parking space otherwise? Do you already have two cars? The garage is actually not intended as a parking space; the area in front of it is. On the other side of the house, another parking space is planned, which is why there is a second driveway over the ditch. The pictures show the situation in the development area exactly. On the west side, there are about 14 public parking spaces. Costruttrice schrieb:
There is nowhere to retreat, See the upper floor, relax area. Costruttrice schrieb:
I would definitely have an architect design the house completely freely, only specifying the room program. We also have a north-facing and otherwise difficult plot, and after the architect took what felt like forever, we jokingly planned and drew ourselves in parallel. But we would never have come up with the ideas the architect had! We will of course consult an architect; it’s necessary. But the architect should not plan past any possible wishes. One of the architects we have already contacted with a different design thought the separate kids’ zone was outdated. That’s how it was done in the 70s, he said. Costruttrice schrieb:
Unfortunately, at the moment, a house of this size including a roof terrace is not achievable within the budget. Yes, we will probably realize that soon. We wanted to hear opinions and criticism first, independently of what is financially planned or possible.Similar topics