Hello,
we are currently planning a single-family house without a basement. Since we have never lived without a basement before, we find it difficult to determine the space needed for the kitchen. Specifically, we are considering whether to plan a separate pantry (3-4 m² (32-43 sq ft)) versus a larger kitchen that is about the size of the pantry with more cabinets, or a larger utility room (12 m² (129 sq ft) instead of 8 m² (86 sq ft)) that is easily accessible from the kitchen.
What are your experiences with this? What has proven to be practical?
Thank you for your ideas.
we are currently planning a single-family house without a basement. Since we have never lived without a basement before, we find it difficult to determine the space needed for the kitchen. Specifically, we are considering whether to plan a separate pantry (3-4 m² (32-43 sq ft)) versus a larger kitchen that is about the size of the pantry with more cabinets, or a larger utility room (12 m² (129 sq ft) instead of 8 m² (86 sq ft)) that is easily accessible from the kitchen.
What are your experiences with this? What has proven to be practical?
Thank you for your ideas.
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motorradsilke22 Sep 2021 08:22Tom1978 schrieb:
Considering reducing the size of the kitchen slightly to enlarge the guest toilet and pantry.I wouldn’t do that; both rooms are already a good size.hampshire schrieb:
If you have the budget and the space, there’s no objection to having a pantry. However, most pantries here tend to be designed so small and impractical that leaving them out would be beneficial. The utility room tends to be warm due to appliance heat and can be humid because of laundry. A pantry is better cooler and drier. For drinks and canned goods, it doesn’t matter, but for other food items it does. The pantry will not be cooler than the rest of the house, since it is located within the thermal envelope.
As long as there is another storage room on the ground floor for items like vacuum cleaners and mops, a pantry seems completely unnecessary to me. It is more convenient to have everything easily accessible in the kitchen, provided it is large enough.
Hello,
The current plan doesn’t look bad to me at all; I’m also a big fan of having a pantry. Yes, it’s true that you can create storage space with cupboards in the kitchen, but having a pantry provides a nice “messy corner” where you can quickly hide stuff without having to organize it perfectly. This is especially valuable with children.
Also, beverage crates, recycling bags, and various collection containers for paper and glass are much better stored there than in the kitchen itself.
Just a few suggestions:
Best regards,
Andreas
Tom1978 schrieb:
Considering reducing the kitchen size a bit to enlarge the guest toilet and pantry.
The current plan doesn’t look bad to me at all; I’m also a big fan of having a pantry. Yes, it’s true that you can create storage space with cupboards in the kitchen, but having a pantry provides a nice “messy corner” where you can quickly hide stuff without having to organize it perfectly. This is especially valuable with children.
Also, beverage crates, recycling bags, and various collection containers for paper and glass are much better stored there than in the kitchen itself.
Just a few suggestions:
- Avoid a sliding door for the pantry, as it ruins a wall you could use for storage. Use a regular door instead.
- If you’re installing a mechanical ventilation system, consider adding an exhaust vent in the pantry.
- I would redesign the bathroom: put the toilet under the window and move the washbasin to where the toilet currently is. This way, you can add a shower where the washbasin is now. Sooner or later, you’ll appreciate having a second shower in the house…
Best regards,
Andreas
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hampshire22 Sep 2021 09:55Tom1978 schrieb:
We will have a 15 sqm (160 sq ft) kitchen plus a 3.5 sqm (38 sq ft) pantry. The utility room is 10 sqm (108 sq ft).I think the pantry is usable as drawn, which is fine.andimann schrieb:
- No sliding door to the pantry, as it would ruin wall space for storage. Use a standard hinged door.
- If you are installing a mechanical ventilation with heat recovery system, add an exhaust vent in the pantry.
Good tips – also, a hinged door with the hinge on the left (viewed from the kitchen) can stay open nicely if you need to go back and forth a lot. If you do choose a sliding door, make it wall-integrated to avoid losing storage space.Stealth mode is another option: extend the kitchen run so that behind a large cabinet front there is access to the pantry (downside: prone to everyday wear and tear).
aero2016 schrieb:
The pantry won’t be cooler than the rest of the house. It is inside the thermal envelope.Ignoring its windowless position, it certainly won’t be cooler than the rest of the house without special measures – but it won’t be warmer than the utility room either, which tends to heat up due to lots of electronics and equipment.This is a few days old, but it might still be useful for someone later on.
Although we have a basement, we had a different idea for a "pantry." In the current open-plan layouts, we both felt that using kitchen appliances that run for a long time (Thermomix, Bosch MUM, etc.), blenders, or quickly frying something wasn’t exactly cozy. Therefore, in addition to the kitchen, we have a small scullery. It includes a low counter measuring 1.4 meters (5 feet) wide, a tall cabinet, and an additional 80 cm (31 inches) of workspace or storage area, with the option to separate noisy or smelly tasks. It’s not yet decided whether a cooktop will be built in or stored in the cabinet when not in use.
Although we have a basement, we had a different idea for a "pantry." In the current open-plan layouts, we both felt that using kitchen appliances that run for a long time (Thermomix, Bosch MUM, etc.), blenders, or quickly frying something wasn’t exactly cozy. Therefore, in addition to the kitchen, we have a small scullery. It includes a low counter measuring 1.4 meters (5 feet) wide, a tall cabinet, and an additional 80 cm (31 inches) of workspace or storage area, with the option to separate noisy or smelly tasks. It’s not yet decided whether a cooktop will be built in or stored in the cabinet when not in use.
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