ᐅ Searching for Ideas: Floor Plan on the Plot / Garage Situation
Created on: 10 Sep 2021 09:45
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Mietzi_Mietz10 Sep 2021 09:45Hello everyone,
We’re in the relatively fortunate position of possibly acquiring a plot of land... In our region in the Oberallgäu area, finding an affordable plot is anything but easy.
We have already contacted some prefab home suppliers and received an offer for a house that would meet our needs. We also considered building locally, but due to our limited budget, that probably won’t be possible.
Now the question is whether we want to take the plot if we get it, no matter what or not. Honestly, we can’t be too picky here, as there are long waiting lists for years or the prices are extremely high.
So, about the plot: it’s house number 3.
The development is in a small district of a small municipality. The road at the house is only for traffic related to the development and therefore sees little traffic.
Since we are only allowed a 0.9m (3 feet) fence height along the street, we are likely to orient the garden to the south towards the neighbor’s existing garage. There we could put up a higher privacy screen since it’s not directly by the street.
As we won’t have a basement, we are currently planning a double garage.
The local building regulations do not specify roof ridge directions, so we can position the house as we wish.
We also need to maintain a 5-meter (16 feet) distance from the street in front of the garage.
Otherwise, the development plan is quite generous; we only have a maximum ridge beam height and no other restrictions. The floor area ratio is also absolutely fine.
My problem is that the longer I look at the plot, the fewer ideas I have or the more negative my thoughts get.
So I’m hoping to get some ideas here that we can pursue...
Just for an overview...
Our neighboring plot to the south is already built on, the eastern one not yet. The neighbor there intends to place the garage on the border to our property, so this is why we are considering positioning our garage in the same location...
Here are two very rough sketches. Obviously, the house is not finalized, but this is roughly the direction we’re heading.
In this version, the garage and house are parallel, but we’re a bit concerned that the living room might get quite little light, so we probably won’t build the garage directly attached.
Later we thought about having a small covered area for trash bins etc. at the front side of the garage facing the house.
Or rotate everything a bit so the living room is farther from the garage...
In this layout, there would be about 1.7m (5.5 feet) gap at the front and 2.5m (8 feet) at the back between house and garage, but everything is kind of skewed 😀
Another alternative would be to place the garage on the east side and possibly create an east-facing terrace behind the garage and a smaller one to the south.
We would then be closer to the western property boundary...
I think I’m simply insecure because our building envelope is so crooked and skewed, and I lack the imagination to visualize it properly.
If any information is missing that would be necessary for rough brainstorming, I’ll gladly find out. 🙂
Also, I’d appreciate any general impressions you have of the plot.
Some say it’s better to have a quiet street on one side than a neighbor who might become annoying someday, others say definitely not on a street at all, etc.
We’re in the relatively fortunate position of possibly acquiring a plot of land... In our region in the Oberallgäu area, finding an affordable plot is anything but easy.
We have already contacted some prefab home suppliers and received an offer for a house that would meet our needs. We also considered building locally, but due to our limited budget, that probably won’t be possible.
Now the question is whether we want to take the plot if we get it, no matter what or not. Honestly, we can’t be too picky here, as there are long waiting lists for years or the prices are extremely high.
So, about the plot: it’s house number 3.
The development is in a small district of a small municipality. The road at the house is only for traffic related to the development and therefore sees little traffic.
Since we are only allowed a 0.9m (3 feet) fence height along the street, we are likely to orient the garden to the south towards the neighbor’s existing garage. There we could put up a higher privacy screen since it’s not directly by the street.
As we won’t have a basement, we are currently planning a double garage.
The local building regulations do not specify roof ridge directions, so we can position the house as we wish.
We also need to maintain a 5-meter (16 feet) distance from the street in front of the garage.
Otherwise, the development plan is quite generous; we only have a maximum ridge beam height and no other restrictions. The floor area ratio is also absolutely fine.
My problem is that the longer I look at the plot, the fewer ideas I have or the more negative my thoughts get.
So I’m hoping to get some ideas here that we can pursue...
Just for an overview...
Our neighboring plot to the south is already built on, the eastern one not yet. The neighbor there intends to place the garage on the border to our property, so this is why we are considering positioning our garage in the same location...
Here are two very rough sketches. Obviously, the house is not finalized, but this is roughly the direction we’re heading.
In this version, the garage and house are parallel, but we’re a bit concerned that the living room might get quite little light, so we probably won’t build the garage directly attached.
Later we thought about having a small covered area for trash bins etc. at the front side of the garage facing the house.
Or rotate everything a bit so the living room is farther from the garage...
In this layout, there would be about 1.7m (5.5 feet) gap at the front and 2.5m (8 feet) at the back between house and garage, but everything is kind of skewed 😀
Another alternative would be to place the garage on the east side and possibly create an east-facing terrace behind the garage and a smaller one to the south.
We would then be closer to the western property boundary...
I think I’m simply insecure because our building envelope is so crooked and skewed, and I lack the imagination to visualize it properly.
If any information is missing that would be necessary for rough brainstorming, I’ll gladly find out. 🙂
Also, I’d appreciate any general impressions you have of the plot.
Some say it’s better to have a quiet street on one side than a neighbor who might become annoying someday, others say definitely not on a street at all, etc.
Mietzi_Mietz schrieb:
I think I’m just uncertain because our building envelope is so irregular and I lack the imagination for it Maybe it’s just the wrong floor plan for the plot 😉
No, seriously: a layout with a kitchen of 9 sqm (approximately 97 sq ft), while the TV area is huge, is not really up to date anymore. The kitchen works in a holiday home, but not for 20 years in a household of four people.
The TV area is positioned too far away from the sofa.
I would 1. mirror the house, 2. move the bay window on the south side to the other side, and 3. relocate the kitchen and dining area back to the west. The overhang in the living room could be used as a wardrobe or something similar. It would need to be looked at in detail.
Regarding the location: are you allowed to place the driveway wherever you want?
Personally, I would position the garage at the top left of the plan: this way you maximize the west garden area, promising plenty of afternoon sun inside the house. The three meters (approximately 10 feet) of “unused space” at the edge of the garage could be used as a pathway to the yard side, bordered by a hedge.
But basically, you can’t go too wrong. Each location has its own advantages.
Mietzi_Mietz schrieb:
We have also been in contact with prefab house suppliers and received an offer for a house that would meet our requirements. We had also considered building locally, but due to our limited budget, this will probably not be possible. Get rid of the sticky prefab house myths and take an unbiased look at providers of all construction methods, preferably owner-operated companies from the region.
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Mietzi_Mietz13 Sep 2021 12:54Yes, it would be nice to build regionally, but here in the Allgäu region, it just doesn’t seem feasible for us.
We have already looked into it... in this development area, at least 80% of the houses are prefabricated.
Of course, we can keep looking, but some have already dismissed us outright when we mentioned that our budget is limited...
@ypg:
The kitchen layout is not fixed yet, that was just an example. We can still move the L-shape further south; we don’t plan to have a breakfast bar or seating there anyway.
Also, we have planned a pantry... Our current kitchen is rather small but has basically everything we need 🙂
So, you would swap the WC and pantry with the utility room and also move the bay window to the other side?
But then we would have much less space for the kitchen, or am I misunderstanding you?
We have already looked into it... in this development area, at least 80% of the houses are prefabricated.
Of course, we can keep looking, but some have already dismissed us outright when we mentioned that our budget is limited...
@ypg:
The kitchen layout is not fixed yet, that was just an example. We can still move the L-shape further south; we don’t plan to have a breakfast bar or seating there anyway.
Also, we have planned a pantry... Our current kitchen is rather small but has basically everything we need 🙂
So, you would swap the WC and pantry with the utility room and also move the bay window to the other side?
But then we would have much less space for the kitchen, or am I misunderstanding you?
Mietzi_Mietz schrieb:
It would be nice to build regionally, but here in the Allgäu, we probably just can’t manage that.
We’ve already checked... at least 80% of the houses in this development are prefabricated... Having such a high proportion of one construction method in a development can happen. However, this unfortunately doesn’t mean that this method has been magically made cheaper by a good fairy. Are you perhaps comparing apples to oranges, meaning the prices from builders for complete houses with the wheel-less car prices of prefab homes advertised?
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nordanney13 Sep 2021 13:38Mietzi_Mietz schrieb:
We have also been in contact with prefabricated house suppliers and received an offer for a house that would meet our requirements. We had also considered building locally, but due to our limited budget, that probably won't be feasible. Comparable house = comparable price. Or do you think prefabricated house suppliers can work miracles and everything will be cheaper there? If your budget is not enough for a local builder, it won't be enough for a prefabricated house manufacturer either.
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