ᐅ Feedback on the floor plan design for 150 sqm

Created on: 28 Aug 2021 13:35
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RiQu2020
Hello, we are currently planning the construction of our future home. We have a fairly clear idea of how the house should look and have already presented our plans to four construction companies. They all basically accepted our ideas without much criticism, gave a few minor suggestions here and there, and provided initial cost estimates. Since the companies all took our ideas quite quietly, we assume we are on the right track 🙂

We would like to hear your opinions on the floor plan before we hand over the fine-tuned plans to the construction companies for detailed pricing.

Development Plan / Restrictions
Plot size: 1,150 sqm (12,379 sq ft) - Parcels 19 + 19a - (plot contractually reserved, buildability likely from Jan 22)
Slope: no
Site coverage ratio: 0.3
Floor area ratio: 0.6
Building envelope, building line, and boundary: at least 3 m (10 ft) must be left free for landscaping along the street
Edge development: I found nothing further about edge development in the development plan, so I assume 3 meters (10 ft)
Number of parking spaces: parking spaces must be created for our own cars
Number of storeys: max 2 full storeys
Roof style
Architectural style
Orientation
Maximum height/limitations: max ridge height 9.5 m (31 ft)
Further regulations: garages must be at least 3 m (10 ft) away from public traffic areas

Requirements from the Homeowners
Architectural style, roof style, building type: urban villa with flat gable roof (KfW55 standard)
Basement, storeys: no basement, 2 storeys
Number of occupants, ages: 2 adults, 1 child (29, 29, 2 years), another child planned
Space requirements on ground and upper floors:
Ground floor: guest room/office + shower bathroom
Upper floor: 2 children’s rooms, master bedroom, dressing room, children’s bathroom, master bathroom
Office: family use or home office? Home office possibility + overnight guests
Guest stays per year: at least 10 times a year for 2 guests, possibly more
Open or closed architecture
Conservative or modern design: rather modern
Open kitchen, kitchen island: open kitchen with island
Number of dining seats: 6
Fireplace: no
Music/sound wall: no
Balcony, roof terrace: no
Garage, carport: we plan a carport
Utility garden, greenhouse: some use planned
Additional wishes/particulars/daily routine, including reasons for choices: We definitely wanted a storage room, which one company then added upstairs. The last company we spoke with suggested this: concrete stairs with a separate storage room under the stairs behind a door (unfortunately not included in the floor plan as my "Sweet Home 3D" skills ended there). The stairwell would then face the entrance door rather than the living room. We like this idea but wonder if we could give up the second storage room upstairs in favor of more space for the children’s rooms.

House Design
Who designed the plan: mainly our ideas, digitalized by the construction company
What do you like? Why?:

1. The living room-kitchen area was taken 1:1 from a model home where we liked the feeling of space very much.
2. Bedroom and master bathroom are accessed via the dressing room.
3. The master bathroom is also taken almost exactly from a model home.

What do you not like? Why?: We wonder if the hallway is sufficient. It will definitely not be spacious, just functional, but is there enough space?
Price estimate according to architect/planner:
Personal price limit for the house, including fittings:
Preferred heating technology: heat pump, possibly photovoltaic with battery storage (consultation still needed)

If you had to give up details or expansions
- what could you give up: a storage room?
- what couldn’t you give up:

Why did the design turn out as it is now?
A mix of house catalogs, model home visits, and ideas from the construction companies

What is the most important/basic question about the floor plan in 130 characters?

  • Positioning/orientation on the plot: we are still unsure about what looks good or unusual and how the room orientation toward cardinal directions makes sense. We also have photovoltaic with a corresponding south-facing roof in mind. (I attached 2 orientation ideas)
  • Does an additional window near the couch in the living room make sense?
  • Can the stairwell/gallery window be smaller, will the light be sufficient?
  • What are your general thoughts on the floor plan?

Due to my limited "Sweet Home 3D" skills, the ground floor plan looks a bit odd. I superimposed an earlier floor plan as a reference under the new one. Please only pay attention to the stronger outlines for the sofa and dining table. Sorry about that, but it’s the best I could do.

Let me know if we forgot any relevant information. Sorry in advance if my responses are not immediate; I will try to reply as soon as possible.

So, we look forward to your feedback.

Site plan: plots at Goldregenweg with parcels 224, 199, 197, and arrow.


Upper floor plan: bedroom, dressing room, bathroom, two children’s rooms, gallery.


Site plan of parcels at Goldregenweg with area details (numbers 199, 224).


Site plan: parcels 199, 197, 224, 214; Goldregenweg; small house on lot 19.


House floor plan: living room, kitchen, dining area, guest room, hallway, utility room, WC, stairs.


Two-story residential house with dark gable roof, white facade, and many windows.


Two-story house with light facade, dark gable roof, and many windows.


Two-storey house section showing stairwell, doors, window lines, and dimensions.
11ant30 Aug 2021 10:27
RiQu2020 schrieb:

We will have to rethink many things.
Better to rethink everything, not just many things. Don’t just "refine" what didn’t work. Develop a concept before starting the plan. Otherwise, the all-in-one solution will just turn into a Frankenstein’s monster again. The dough for a meatloaf turns out better when you leave out the pickles and raisins.
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netuser
30 Aug 2021 11:38
RiQu2020 schrieb:


But I think you overlooked the north arrow in the upper right corner of the floor plans? The utility room is actually in the northeast, not the southwest. I attached the floor plans again with the updated north arrow according to position 1.

No, you obviously confused EAST with WEST!? 🙂
As YPG already mentioned, according to the plan, the utility room is located in the west and the living room in the north 🙁 ....
RomeoZwo30 Aug 2021 13:15
A north arrow indicates north ...


Site plan of a plot with parcels, street names, and north arrow


Here, the floor plan shows the cardinal directions.
The west side (evening sun) is blocked by the carport and utility room.

If the carport does not have to be directly attached to the house, I might even consider placing it on the southern boundary. At midday (south), the sun is high enough that the carport would hardly cause any shading.
RomeoZwo30 Aug 2021 13:28
The house layout might look something like this (now without a carport on the south side, as it would be too tight there).
And naturally, the utility room will be placed upstairs in the corner.

Site plan: green plot with colored buildings (blue, gray, orange, yellow) near Goldregenweg.
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RiQu2020
12 Sep 2021 15:05
Thanks again for all your previous answers.

After many new attempts, I have now come up with the following new idea.
The exterior dimensions are now 10.10 m x 10.10 m (33.1 ft x 33.1 ft).

The street is shown in gray.
The carport and terrace are not yet exact in size but are meant to indicate their intended locations for now.
Regarding the hallway: the space under the stairs is also planned to be used.
Some windows are shown with their opening directions, others without—please don’t be confused by that. The windows still need to be aligned more precisely and symmetrically, but I feel it’s heading in the right direction.

I now arrive at 174 m² (1872 sq ft) of floor area; the net living area will probably be slightly less after subtracting the stairs, correct wall thicknesses, and so on.

What are your thoughts on:
- Room layout/distribution/size?
- Orientation in relation to the cardinal directions?

I’m also grateful for any advice regarding the windows (size, arrangement, shape, symmetry, etc.).

(The house will have a proper roof, but the software does not support this yet.)

Grundriss eines Wohnhauses mit zwei Kinderzimmern, Schlafzimmer, Ankleide, Abstellraum und Bad.


Grundriss eines Hauses mit mehreren Zimmern, Wohnzimmer, Küche, Bad und Garage.


3D-Modell eines zweistöckigen grauen Hauses mit Carport an der Seite und großen Fenstern


Modernes graues zweistöckiges Haus mit großen Fenstern, Eingang und Einfahrt.
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ypg
12 Sep 2021 18:16
I keep thinking, while looking at the ground floor: the staircase does not belong THERE. What’s the point of these extra corridors? That’s something you do when you have to make a complete turnaround and a dozen detours because of a problematic plot.

I would switch the office and the kitchen anyway, or rather put the living room where the office is and the office where the kitchen is.

Then I look at the upper floor and the dilemma with the terraced house children’s bedrooms. That really shouldn’t be necessary. It shows you that the staircase has been placed arbitrarily.